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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 8179465" data-attributes="member: 7635">Ymmv and all that, but hard no for me. Nothing is worse than Coming up with a concept and then having the dice tell you no. Esp if you wanted to play a bard, druid, ranger, or paladin and the dice didn't generate the multiple high scores needed for those classes moreso if they weren't generated in the right order. The same holds true of racial min/max, where low Con halflings and wise half-orcs don't exist. Played that way for 8 years before 3e; all I found is a lot of incredibly lucky players who just happened to role exactly what they needed to play thier chosen race/class combo while the DM wasn't watching every roll...Given a choice, I'll stick with asking the DM to play concepts over gambling to play an elf ranger and getting the rolls that only support a human fighter.</blockquote>