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<blockquote data-quote="WyzardWhately" data-source="post: 4058744" data-attributes="member: 33207">Well, it looks like they've tried to bring most attacks into line with damage-dealing.&nbsp; That's how they measure classes against each other, and it's the standard they're going with.&nbsp; It's why undead turning is probably going to mostly deal damage, poison is going to deal damage, weakening effects cut your damage in half instead of changing your STR, etc.So, the overpowered class is going to be one where their abilities aren't damage-dealing.&nbsp; Seriously, stay with me here.&nbsp; It's pretty easy to just run a lot of numbers and keep all the classes damage-dealing potential in-line with the &quot;math.&quot;&nbsp; WotC has smart people, they have time, I believe they will succeed at this.&nbsp; Where the hole is going to be is in abilities that don't deal with to-hit, damage, or defense scores.&nbsp; You look at classes that move themselves in different ways, move enemies, make weird ranged attacks, counter-attack, hand out extra actions, etc.&nbsp; That's where they're going to accidentally break a class.&nbsp; Somebody is going to come up with a way to make, say, an eladrin fighter with rogue cross-training who sneak-attacks and teleports away, or something bizarre like that.&nbsp; It's going to be a combo of different miscellaneous powers, not quadding power attack or throwing out save-or-dies.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="WyzardWhately, post: 4058744, member: 33207"] Well, it looks like they've tried to bring most attacks into line with damage-dealing. That's how they measure classes against each other, and it's the standard they're going with. It's why undead turning is probably going to mostly deal damage, poison is going to deal damage, weakening effects cut your damage in half instead of changing your STR, etc. So, the overpowered class is going to be one where their abilities aren't damage-dealing. Seriously, stay with me here. It's pretty easy to just run a lot of numbers and keep all the classes damage-dealing potential in-line with the "math." WotC has smart people, they have time, I believe they will succeed at this. Where the hole is going to be is in abilities that don't deal with to-hit, damage, or defense scores. You look at classes that move themselves in different ways, move enemies, make weird ranged attacks, counter-attack, hand out extra actions, etc. That's where they're going to accidentally break a class. Somebody is going to come up with a way to make, say, an eladrin fighter with rogue cross-training who sneak-attacks and teleports away, or something bizarre like that. It's going to be a combo of different miscellaneous powers, not quadding power attack or throwing out save-or-dies. [/QUOTE]

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