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<blockquote data-quote="JohnSnow" data-source="post: 4258113" data-attributes="member: 32164">Is that supposed to be a slam? Because, ya know, I do live in San Francisco, and that kinda seems like the passive-aggressive form of an insult.Besides, I thought the normal accusation was that we were all &quot;elitist liberals.&quot; Please enlighten me as to how &quot;elitist&quot; and &quot;ruthlessly egalitarian&quot; go hand-in-hand? Or, alternatively, you could just, ya know, refrain from making political comments, like the CoC asks.For the record, I'm in favor of anything that makes D&amp;D magic more closely resemble the best conceived magic system in a novel ever.It's not that &quot;anyone&quot; can do magic, it's that any PC who chooses to study magic is considered one of the &quot;fortunate few&quot; who have &quot;the gift.&quot; With the general populace, it may be that only 1 person in 10,000 (or less) can actually cast magic (rituals or spells). But PCs are special, and if the player wants his rogue to be able to be skilled with magic, the rogue just has &quot;the gift.&quot;It would be rude to make the fighter's player &quot;roll dice&quot; or some such to see if his character had the gift for magic. We don't make the wizard player &quot;roll dice&quot; to make sure his character isn't totally incompetent in a fistfight. It's all about &quot;proper training.&quot; Which means, in D&amp;D, having the relevant skills and feats.For the record, the magic system in Midnight worked similarly to this, and it worked like a charm.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="JohnSnow, post: 4258113, member: 32164"] Is that supposed to be a slam? Because, ya know, I do live in San Francisco, and that kinda seems like the passive-aggressive form of an insult. Besides, I thought the normal accusation was that we were all "elitist liberals." Please enlighten me as to how "elitist" and "ruthlessly egalitarian" go hand-in-hand? Or, alternatively, you could just, ya know, refrain from making political comments, like the CoC asks. For the record, I'm in favor of anything that makes D&D magic more closely resemble the best conceived magic system in a novel [i]ever[/i]. It's not that "anyone" can do magic, it's that any PC who chooses to study magic is considered one of the "fortunate few" who have "the gift." With the general populace, it may be that only 1 person in 10,000 (or less) can actually cast magic (rituals or spells). But PCs are special, and if the player wants his rogue to be able to be skilled with magic, the rogue just has "the gift." It would be rude to make the fighter's player "roll dice" or some such to see if his character had the gift for magic. We don't make the wizard player "roll dice" to make sure his character isn't totally incompetent in a fistfight. It's all about "proper training." Which means, in D&D, having the relevant skills and feats. For the record, the magic system in [i]Midnight[/i] worked similarly to this, and it worked like a charm. [/QUOTE]

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