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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 8625488" data-attributes="member: 6790260">Pretty sure that origin was deprecated and completely sure that it only appeared during the 5e playtest, not 4e. And it was deprecated specifically because it has some seriously crappy implications.4e dragonborn, no one knows their exact origin. It's an open question answered by ideologically charged mythology, not perfectly known history. (In brief: some say they were made from whole cloth, either as servants to dragons, predecessors to dragons, or equal but distinct siblings; some say they formed by direct and accidental creation when Io's blood fell to the earth; some say they were made from dragons by divine alteration, or conversely that dragons were made from them by divine alteration.)It absolutely is. Also, I'm not talking about "I find X to be realistic in fictional setting A and unrealistic in fictional setting B," I'm talking about "I am totally cool with dragons, which violate several basic rules of biology, physics, and plain common sense, but having humans who can do things that aren't even on par with Olympic level athletes is COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE IN ALL CASES, and you are OBJECTIVELY WRONG if you disagree because SCIENCE says so." Even when it doesn't.See my referenced example of how "unrealistic" it is to have both full plate armor and handheld gunpowder weapons (or indeed ANY form of gunpowder weaponry like cannons) in the same game....even though handguns may actually predate plate armor IRL (they were certainly contemporaries) and gunpowder cannons DEFINITELY predate full plate.</blockquote>

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