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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Slobber Monster" data-source="post: 2446885" data-attributes="member: 27687"><p>Once again, I cannot recommend highly enough Rich's diplomacy rules. He modifies the base DC by two factors - relationship and risk/reward judgement. With the diplomat example if the PC has pulled off all of the lies then the diplomat would view them as an ally, good for a -5 adjustment to the Diplomacy DC.  The PC could then further improve their chances by making it worthwhile with a bribe offer, service performed, political favor, etc. If the Diplomacy check still fails, but by less than 5, then the diplomat might make a counteroffer that would earn enough of a risk/reward adjustment to make the attempt a success.</p></blockquote><p></p>