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<blockquote data-quote="Tharen the Damned" data-source="post: 3713803" data-attributes="member: 17091"><p>Even if there is a "social encounter" there still have to be rules how and if the "opponent" is "beaten" or not. And these rules will use some kind of dice roll.</p><p>I always let my player roleplay his use of Diplomacy and if he made a good speech he got a +2 or even higher circumstance bonus.</p><p>Maybe social skills will not be resolved by only one die roll.</p><p>Example: An angry mob wants to lynch the bard (for whatever reason). The Bard's Player annonces that he will use diplomacy to sway the mob.</p><p>The bard has the surprise round and makes his first diplomacy "attack": He wants the mob to listen to him.</p><p>1st Diplomacy skill check</p><p>Lets say he passes the DC.</p><p>Then the bard again has the initiative (his INI modifier is his Cha. Bonus. much better then the average mob person). Now he uses a Full round action to halt the mob so he can explain next round that the whole affair is in fact a misunderstanding.</p><p>2nd Diplomacy Check.</p><p>Lets say he passes the DC again.</p><p>The mob halts</p><p>Now it is the mobs turn. One of the ringleaders (the father of this beautiful maid the bard san so many songs to) tries to incite the mob again.</p><p>1st Diplomacy check of the mob</p><p>Lets say he does not pass the DC.</p><p>Now the Bard is doing his 2nd full round action. Now he does his best to explain why he was found with these 2 maids, the stolen Horse and the Majors Tax Chest in the old Barn outisde the village.</p><p>The DM asks the Player to make up a speech. The Player is very creative so the DM assigns a +2 circumstance bonus.</p><p>3rd Diplomacy check</p><p>Lets say the Bard passes the DC again.</p><p>He has succeded. the villagers believ that he stole the Horse to free the maids and the Tax chest from these Orcish Robbers. In fact, his last Diplomacy check exeeded the DC by far. So the DM rules that the villagers no see the Bard as a Hero, thanking him and throwing a party in his honor...</p><p>That is how a Diplomacy "encounter" might work.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tharen the Damned, post: 3713803, member: 17091"] Even if there is a "social encounter" there still have to be rules how and if the "opponent" is "beaten" or not. And these rules will use some kind of dice roll. I always let my player roleplay his use of Diplomacy and if he made a good speech he got a +2 or even higher circumstance bonus. Maybe social skills will not be resolved by only one die roll. Example: An angry mob wants to lynch the bard (for whatever reason). The Bard's Player annonces that he will use diplomacy to sway the mob. The bard has the surprise round and makes his first diplomacy "attack": He wants the mob to listen to him. 1st Diplomacy skill check Lets say he passes the DC. Then the bard again has the initiative (his INI modifier is his Cha. Bonus. much better then the average mob person). Now he uses a Full round action to halt the mob so he can explain next round that the whole affair is in fact a misunderstanding. 2nd Diplomacy Check. Lets say he passes the DC again. The mob halts Now it is the mobs turn. One of the ringleaders (the father of this beautiful maid the bard san so many songs to) tries to incite the mob again. 1st Diplomacy check of the mob Lets say he does not pass the DC. Now the Bard is doing his 2nd full round action. Now he does his best to explain why he was found with these 2 maids, the stolen Horse and the Majors Tax Chest in the old Barn outisde the village. The DM asks the Player to make up a speech. The Player is very creative so the DM assigns a +2 circumstance bonus. 3rd Diplomacy check Lets say the Bard passes the DC again. He has succeded. the villagers believ that he stole the Horse to free the maids and the Tax chest from these Orcish Robbers. In fact, his last Diplomacy check exeeded the DC by far. So the DM rules that the villagers no see the Bard as a Hero, thanking him and throwing a party in his honor... That is how a Diplomacy "encounter" might work. [/QUOTE]
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