Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Enchanted Trinkets Complete--a hardcover book containing over 500 magic items for your D&D games!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Social Power Source - Courtesan
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Alex319" data-source="post: 4420670" data-attributes="member: 45678"><p>I wonder what the powers will look like? The whole idea of a class based on "confusing the opponents into fighting for you/not attacking you" seems like an interesting idea but could use a lot of work.</p><p></p><p>The first thing I notice with this class is that the Courtesan's Mark ability seems <em>extremely</em> overpowered.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So you can force the opponent to waste his move action? And possibly provoke several AOs? Or even go into a pit or something? And the opponent has no way to defend against this ability? And using this ability doesn't even take an action? And you can do it every round? No thanks.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Now this one is closer to earth. It's similar to the fighter and paladin marks except it works in reverse. But the fighter and paladin marks don't completely control the other opponent; it just gives them a penalty. As for this one, perhaps something similar: maybe say that if the enemy attacks the Courtesan, the Courtesan gets to roll a Charisma vs. Will "attack", and if it "hits" the enemy is fooled by the Courtesan and refuses to attack (wasting his action). But you also have to decide what happens if the Courtesan and other non-Courtesan allies are all targeted by an AoE.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>+2 to all defenses? That seems overpowerd by itself. And is there any restriction on where the mark has to be in order to aid your defense?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Any restrictions on where exactly the mark has to be to do this? And again this seems very powerful for an at-will ability that you can use every round. Also, how does this work with AOEs?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Please clarify what this means. Does it mean the mark attacks its own teammates. Now this is WAY too powerful - it allows you to turn an enemy against his team automatically!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>With these abilities and a reasonably high Bluff skill, Courtesans will be getting CA on almost every attack. Is this really what you want? (And whatever you do, please don't let rogues get access to this ability via multiclassing.)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Can you do this to everyone you Feinted, without using up any extra actions? Please be advised that with Courtesan's Tactics, almost all the adjacent enemies will be Feinted most of the time. Is this really what you are looking for?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alex319, post: 4420670, member: 45678"] I wonder what the powers will look like? The whole idea of a class based on "confusing the opponents into fighting for you/not attacking you" seems like an interesting idea but could use a lot of work. The first thing I notice with this class is that the Courtesan's Mark ability seems [i]extremely[/i] overpowered. So you can force the opponent to waste his move action? And possibly provoke several AOs? Or even go into a pit or something? And the opponent has no way to defend against this ability? And using this ability doesn't even take an action? And you can do it every round? No thanks. Now this one is closer to earth. It's similar to the fighter and paladin marks except it works in reverse. But the fighter and paladin marks don't completely control the other opponent; it just gives them a penalty. As for this one, perhaps something similar: maybe say that if the enemy attacks the Courtesan, the Courtesan gets to roll a Charisma vs. Will "attack", and if it "hits" the enemy is fooled by the Courtesan and refuses to attack (wasting his action). But you also have to decide what happens if the Courtesan and other non-Courtesan allies are all targeted by an AoE. +2 to all defenses? That seems overpowerd by itself. And is there any restriction on where the mark has to be in order to aid your defense? Any restrictions on where exactly the mark has to be to do this? And again this seems very powerful for an at-will ability that you can use every round. Also, how does this work with AOEs? Please clarify what this means. Does it mean the mark attacks its own teammates. Now this is WAY too powerful - it allows you to turn an enemy against his team automatically! With these abilities and a reasonably high Bluff skill, Courtesans will be getting CA on almost every attack. Is this really what you want? (And whatever you do, please don't let rogues get access to this ability via multiclassing.) Can you do this to everyone you Feinted, without using up any extra actions? Please be advised that with Courtesan's Tactics, almost all the adjacent enemies will be Feinted most of the time. Is this really what you are looking for? [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Social Power Source - Courtesan
Top