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<blockquote data-quote="Rogue Agent" data-source="post: 5821173" data-attributes="member: 6673496">And even then, it only works because there's an accepted default method of &quot;climbing bare-handed&quot; and an assumed goal of &quot;get to the top&quot;. If you want to do something other than that default (use a rope or pitons, for example), then you're going to have to go into more detail with the Climb skill, too.Bluff, Diplomacy, and similar skills, OTOH, don't have defaults like that. As you say, you can almost guess what &quot;bluff the guard&quot; means, but not really.Actually, no. It doesn't mean the same thing. There are lots of ways in which you can diplomatically achieve a particular outcome; &quot;being sweet&quot;, while still being fairly general, is still relatively specific about the approach being used.Now, I do think there is a degree of personal preference in terms of how specific you have to be about your desired goal and the method you're using to achieve it. For some people, Tymophil's example may still be too non-specific. (And I'm assuming here that it's being accompanied by some specific goal.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Rogue Agent, post: 5821173, member: 6673496"] And even then, it only works because there's an accepted default method of "climbing bare-handed" and an assumed goal of "get to the top". If you want to do something other than that default (use a rope or pitons, for example), then you're going to have to go into more detail with the Climb skill, too. Bluff, Diplomacy, and similar skills, OTOH, don't have defaults like that. As you say, you can [I]almost[/I] guess what "bluff the guard" means, but not really. Actually, no. It doesn't mean the same thing. There are lots of ways in which you can diplomatically achieve a particular outcome; "being sweet", while still being fairly general, is still relatively specific about the approach being used. Now, I do think there is a degree of personal preference in terms of [I]how specific[/I] you have to be about your desired goal and the method you're using to achieve it. For some people, Tymophil's example may still be too non-specific. (And I'm assuming here that it's being accompanied by some specific goal.) [/QUOTE]

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