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Message: <blockquote data-quote="S'mon" data-source="post: 403438" data-attributes="member: 463">Chaotic Honour etcFrom 2000AD 'Slaine' saga.Slaine (CG barbarian) looms over Slough Throt (NE 'Drune' Druid), axe raised.Slough Throt:"But... you gave your word!  The word of a Sessair warrior!"Slaine:"Breaking my word to a Drune is no hardship!"Chaotics can have a strong sense of honour, but it's an individualistic honour - eg both giver and receiver of a vow must be worthy of honour for the vow to be meaningful, as in the quote above.  Lawfuls are more likely to see honour as something important of itself, so that they won't break their word regardless of who they gave it to, or at any rate it's a dishonourable act.BTW criminal groups like the mafia used to be commonly portrayed as LE, like in the Godfather films, but the truth is probably closer to 'Goodfellas', basically more CE than LE.As far as modern societies go, I certainly wouldn't class all 1st world ones as Lawful.  Italy is a classic Chaotic society, and apart from the fascist interlude has been so for centuries.  France is definitely on the chaotic side of neutral, England probably on the lawful side (harder to judge since I live there!).  Germany is very definitely lawful.  Most people would say the USA was pretty chaotic, though in a very different (and more functional) way than Italy.  Some of what were called 2nd world societies are also clearly chaotic, Columbia for instance, while others are closer to lawful, and Mexico has both in different areas (chaotic borders, lawful hinterlands?).  Russia is pretty chaotic.  China is much more lawful.</blockquote>

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