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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dr. Strangemonkey" data-source="post: 403573" data-attributes="member: 6533">Waiter, there's a Monkey on my WrenchOr rather, I would put forward the idea that a society may have a different alignment than the people in it.America, for instance, is often described as a society of laws, rule of law and constitutionalism as symptoms of such.  Americans, however, are very often described as enamored of individualism and seeing the good/rights of the individual as being more important than the good/laws of the society.In the original dwarf problem, the society was decentralized and fractitious but the individuals had a deep sense of tradition, respect for authority, discipline, and working with/for the group.So an alignment for the dwarf society might be chaotic but the alignment for the people of the society be lawful.I would use a similar system to describe the Mongols pre-Khan, in which the individual clans had very strong laws and traditions, but the clans as a whole couldn't get organized and fought all the time.I would even say that it can work on the good/evil access as well, say Rome or Early America, but I would not think it too likely that most of the people, or at least most of the people in power, in a Chaotic-Evil society would have Lawful-Good attitudes.I'm not saying that this is the way it is all the time, but that it is a useful way of dealing with some individual cases and of simulating the sometimes very divergent outlooks of people and the systems they live in.</blockquote>

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