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<blockquote data-quote="Chrisling" data-source="post: 406303" data-attributes="member: 6816">As a part-time Taoist and lover of kung-fu movies, I feel driven to point out that amongst the movies and literature of the martial arts guys, a lot of the best mystically powered martial artists are not particularly lawful.Indeed, in true Taoist fashion, adherence to the rules usually becomes a limitation towards people finding their true potential.&nbsp; For good examples of this, I suggest (right off the top of my head) Tsui Hark's The Swordsman and Jet Li's Fist of Legend and Tai Chi (where you also get to see Michelle Yeoh, woo woo!) -- in all three movies, the hero achieves the highest levels of skill only by rejecting the traditional teachings of his school.Furthermore, in the &quot;real world&quot; the (arguably) greatest martial artist of the 20th century, Bruce Lee, was contemptuous of rigid systems of martial arts.&nbsp; He referred to them as &quot;organized uselessness&quot; and repeatedly said that a really good martial artist has an open mind that reacts naturally to whatever happens.&nbsp; Again, now in the real world, a person reaching the highest levels of skill does so by &lt;I&gt;rejecting&lt;/i&gt; traditional training.&nbsp; Unsurprisingly, Bruce Lee was a Taoist, too.Also, about the barbarian rage thing, there's a PrC in Oriental Adventures, the singh rager, who &lt;i&gt;must&lt;/i&gt; be lawful and can rage identically to a barbarian.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Chrisling, post: 406303, member: 6816"] As a part-time Taoist and lover of kung-fu movies, I feel driven to point out that amongst the movies and literature of the martial arts guys, a lot of the best mystically powered martial artists are not particularly lawful. Indeed, in true Taoist fashion, adherence to the rules usually becomes a limitation towards people finding their true potential. For good examples of this, I suggest (right off the top of my head) Tsui Hark's The Swordsman and Jet Li's Fist of Legend and Tai Chi (where you also get to see Michelle Yeoh, woo woo!) -- in all three movies, the hero achieves the highest levels of skill only by rejecting the traditional teachings of his school. Furthermore, in the "real world" the (arguably) greatest martial artist of the 20th century, Bruce Lee, was contemptuous of rigid systems of martial arts. He referred to them as "organized uselessness" and repeatedly said that a really good martial artist has an open mind that reacts naturally to whatever happens. Again, now in the real world, a person reaching the highest levels of skill does so by rejecting traditional training. Unsurprisingly, Bruce Lee was a Taoist, too. Also, about the barbarian rage thing, there's a PrC in Oriental Adventures, the singh rager, who must be lawful and can rage identically to a barbarian. :) [/QUOTE]

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