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Message: <blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 406426" data-attributes="member: 2067">Yeah, creamsteak, your paladin did pretty much what would be expected of a Neutral Good paladin, except I could see NG making a lot of minor gaffs in the realm of order and focus. And what champion of Pure Upright Goodness has any waverings whatsoever?It's cool that it worked. I, myself, IMC, am VERY lenient with alignment restrictions, seeing the class as mostly a set of powers, and if you can explain it away in some way, I'm happy to let you do whatever you want. So NG paladins could probably work IMC for a while, until I either tested their non-lawfulness, or they passed such a test and became, by general tendancy, lawful. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />As for rebellious monks -- that's not a big problem. Lawful types can be as rebellious as chaotic types, it's just that their rebellion is based on order and logic. They have thought out their rebellion, found a more supreme order than that which they were trained in. They have used logic to fight against logic. Lawful types don't have to obey the rules, they just have to see that the rules are more desirable for most people than being without them. There is a respect for authority, but that doesn't mean obedience by any stretch. If a monk has found Truth and those he has been training under have not, it's perfectly acceptable for them to reject their current leadership as unfocused and not logical, and become focused and reasoned in the *right* direction...In fact, that sounds like a cool monkish plot hook. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />And for a lawful rage -- for these rangers, it's probably more about emulating the pride and nobility of a lion, replacing human nature with something more divine -- the sheer potency of a lion. It's not about surrendering to a bit of chaos. It's about the thrill of the hunt, controlled to bring about a perfection. It's a focus in the moment, a use of adrenaline in a specific circumstance for a specific end, a logical and ordered tempest tapping the power of the organized and structured nature, not breaking it, but using it to it's utmost to transcend body limitations.That's why I'm not a big fan of alignment restrictions in general -- a bit too much flavor, a bit too little flexibility. After all, something that adds some Con and Strength could be explained away as nearly anything. All you'd need to do, IMC, is explain it somehow.Simply rejecting rules does not make one Chaotic. Being Chaotic is an entire philosophy in itself, with it's own tenents and it's own limits and it's own definitions. Being Chaotic is, in it's own way, as limiting and stringent as being Lawful (e.g.: not very).And I still think Law got the shaft. I don't think it's just me who've seen people think of Chaos being cool and rebellious and stuff and so always flock to it. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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