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Societies: Lawful and Chaotic; What Are They?
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<blockquote data-quote="S'mon" data-source="post: 406736" data-attributes="member: 463"><p>Would your parents tell me the Nazis weren't Evil? No. Lawful? In the sense that the Nine Hells are Lawful - D&D Lawful, ie promoting Order (of a sort) - their regime was Lawful, IMO. They purged many of the Chaotic Evil types quite soon after taking power, as Machiavelli advocates: since Chaotics are useful when you're fighting a regime but in the end are never happy, whoever's in charge - better to eliminate them right away. Standard practice for all revolutionary movements.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>We-ell, I kinda regretted doing that. I mentioned it because there was a big thread earlier about the Alignment of the SW characters, could Vader & Palpatine be a different Alignment from the Imperial military, etc. I have plenty of depth BTW. I just don't think there's much point discussing examples of evil alignments that you probably don't know about, like Ulster Loyalist and Irish Republican terrorists in Northern Ireland (where I'm from).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Don't disagree with that at all, but generalisations are still possible. I'm typing this in London, England, which seems to me a fairly Lawful place - moreso than Northern Ireland, even though the crime rate is higher. The Celtic parts of the British Isles don't have quite as strongly internalised a sense of lawfulness as the Anglo-Saxon parts, I've noticed - I'm mostly Celtic in culture myself, ergo I'm sometimes surprised just how law-abiding the English naturally are.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="S'mon, post: 406736, member: 463"] Would your parents tell me the Nazis weren't Evil? No. Lawful? In the sense that the Nine Hells are Lawful - D&D Lawful, ie promoting Order (of a sort) - their regime was Lawful, IMO. They purged many of the Chaotic Evil types quite soon after taking power, as Machiavelli advocates: since Chaotics are useful when you're fighting a regime but in the end are never happy, whoever's in charge - better to eliminate them right away. Standard practice for all revolutionary movements. [B][/B] We-ell, I kinda regretted doing that. I mentioned it because there was a big thread earlier about the Alignment of the SW characters, could Vader & Palpatine be a different Alignment from the Imperial military, etc. I have plenty of depth BTW. I just don't think there's much point discussing examples of evil alignments that you probably don't know about, like Ulster Loyalist and Irish Republican terrorists in Northern Ireland (where I'm from). [B][/B] Don't disagree with that at all, but generalisations are still possible. I'm typing this in London, England, which seems to me a fairly Lawful place - moreso than Northern Ireland, even though the crime rate is higher. The Celtic parts of the British Isles don't have quite as strongly internalised a sense of lawfulness as the Anglo-Saxon parts, I've noticed - I'm mostly Celtic in culture myself, ergo I'm sometimes surprised just how law-abiding the English naturally are. [/QUOTE]
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