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<blockquote data-quote="Jeremy Ackerman-Yost" data-source="post: 406870" data-attributes="member: 4720"><p>I realized I had missed the focus as soon as I started reading Kamikaze Midget's post.</p><p></p><p>I guess I wasn't clear that it was the music that brought him in, but it was the ideas that made him stay. He became truly and deeply committed to his god's views on justice and protecting the innocent. So he's more of a holy warrior who happens to have tapped into areas of music and knowledge than a musician who happened to become a holy warrior.</p><p></p><p>Actually I arrived at the idea because I wanted a paladin who was intelligent and had studied extensively, especially holy texts and both Church and military history. Of course, studying those things also fills your head with all the asides, philosophies, and trivia that are hanging around the edges of those texts. I thought that bardic Knowledge was the perfect mechanic for the kind of information I wanted him to have access to. (Bardic Knowledge is the perfect mechanic for a scholar, IMO. We've read so much, we often need the equivalent of a mental die roll to dredge up a specific piece of information). So, I had a paladin scholar (I figured I'd work out how to give him bardic knowledge later), and I wanted to give him some quirks. Something to show that he wasn't everyone's typical paladin. So I made him good with kids. I figured, not only was he isolated from the world because of his paladin training, but when you tack on being a bookworm, he's probably REALLY isolated and naive. So, what does he do with the kids? Tells 'em stories, parables and such since he's devout, and...sings...songs... perform skill + bardic knowledge = bard. Ooh. He could sing battle hymns as he went into battle. The power of the songs would come from his god...</p><p></p><p>And so on, so I re-wrote the character's history to account for the musical ability, but my actual goal was knowledge. I have a firm belief that fighting classes got screwed in this area. Paladins were mostly drawn from the educated nobility, yet the only Knowledge skill they get is Religion? Who are your generals in this world? Fighters who've been taking Knowledge: Tactics & Knowledge: Military History as cross-class skills? The Educated feat helps this somewhat, but still, at 2+int mod per level, they better have 18 intelligence if they want to have any other skills.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, this is even further off topic than all the Nazi Germany stuff, so I guess I'll stop rambling now...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jeremy Ackerman-Yost, post: 406870, member: 4720"] I realized I had missed the focus as soon as I started reading Kamikaze Midget's post. I guess I wasn't clear that it was the music that brought him in, but it was the ideas that made him stay. He became truly and deeply committed to his god's views on justice and protecting the innocent. So he's more of a holy warrior who happens to have tapped into areas of music and knowledge than a musician who happened to become a holy warrior. Actually I arrived at the idea because I wanted a paladin who was intelligent and had studied extensively, especially holy texts and both Church and military history. Of course, studying those things also fills your head with all the asides, philosophies, and trivia that are hanging around the edges of those texts. I thought that bardic Knowledge was the perfect mechanic for the kind of information I wanted him to have access to. (Bardic Knowledge is the perfect mechanic for a scholar, IMO. We've read so much, we often need the equivalent of a mental die roll to dredge up a specific piece of information). So, I had a paladin scholar (I figured I'd work out how to give him bardic knowledge later), and I wanted to give him some quirks. Something to show that he wasn't everyone's typical paladin. So I made him good with kids. I figured, not only was he isolated from the world because of his paladin training, but when you tack on being a bookworm, he's probably REALLY isolated and naive. So, what does he do with the kids? Tells 'em stories, parables and such since he's devout, and...sings...songs... perform skill + bardic knowledge = bard. Ooh. He could sing battle hymns as he went into battle. The power of the songs would come from his god... And so on, so I re-wrote the character's history to account for the musical ability, but my actual goal was knowledge. I have a firm belief that fighting classes got screwed in this area. Paladins were mostly drawn from the educated nobility, yet the only Knowledge skill they get is Religion? Who are your generals in this world? Fighters who've been taking Knowledge: Tactics & Knowledge: Military History as cross-class skills? The Educated feat helps this somewhat, but still, at 2+int mod per level, they better have 18 intelligence if they want to have any other skills. Anyway, this is even further off topic than all the Nazi Germany stuff, so I guess I'll stop rambling now... [/QUOTE]
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