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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dangerous jack" data-source="post: 5816851" data-attributes="member: 23654">How about save or get a failed death save and dying (as in 4e)?Bob the Fighter's at full hp and gets hit with Finger of Death.  He fails his save, so his bond between his body and soul is weakened (he gets a failed death save) and he's actually dying.At the end of his next turn, he needs to make another death save and fails that too.  Now he has 2 failed death saves.On the following turn he makes his death save and is no longer dying (I know that's not exactly how 4e works though).  But he still has the 2 strikes against him, so if he gets hit with another Finger of Death during this encounter, he'll be instantly dead if he fails his save.  He may also be dead very quickly if he's reduced to below 0hp by other means.</blockquote>