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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 3023694" data-attributes="member: 1656">You mean because of &quot;Similarly, when making a melee attack against such a creature, you can pick any of the squares it occupies to determine if it has cover against you&quot;?It doesn't apply, because &quot;When making a melee attack against a target that isn’t adjacent to you (such as with a reach weapon), use the rules for determining cover from ranged attacks.&quot;So the rule that begins &quot;When making a melee attack against such a creature&quot; is irrelevant, because you don't use the rules for determining cover from melee attacks; you use the rules for determining cover from ranged attacks.The relevant rule, then, is &quot;To determine whether your target has cover from your ranged attack, choose a corner of your square. If any line from this corner to any corner of the target’s square passes through a square or border that blocks line of effect or provides cover, or through a square occupied by a creature, the target has cover (+4 to AC).&quot;The problem is ascertaining what is mean by &quot;any corner of the target’s square&quot;, when the target has a face larger than 5 feet.&nbsp; Does it refer to the 15'x15' square they occupy, or to a particular 5' square within that area?If it's the first, the Huge creature has soft cover against your attack.&nbsp; If it's the second, and if you can elect for that square to be square T, it doesn't.Basically, if you're attacking a non-adjacent creature, the first step is &quot;Imagine I'm using a longbow.&nbsp; Does he have cover against my arrows?&quot;&nbsp; That's the answer to &quot;Does he have cover against my glaive?&quot;-Hyp.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 3023694, member: 1656"] You mean because of "Similarly, when making a melee attack against such a creature, you can pick any of the squares it occupies to determine if it has cover against you"? It doesn't apply, because "When making a melee attack against a target that isn’t adjacent to you (such as with a reach weapon), use the rules for determining cover from ranged attacks." So the rule that begins "When making a melee attack against such a creature" is irrelevant, because you don't use the rules for determining cover from melee attacks; you use the rules for determining cover from ranged attacks. The relevant rule, then, is "To determine whether your target has cover from your ranged attack, choose a corner of your square. If any line from this corner to any corner of the target’s square passes through a square or border that blocks line of effect or provides cover, or through a square occupied by a creature, the target has cover (+4 to AC)." The problem is ascertaining what is mean by "any corner of the target’s square", when the target has a face larger than 5 feet. Does it refer to the 15'x15' square they occupy, or to a particular 5' square within that area? If it's the first, the Huge creature has soft cover against your attack. If it's the second, and if you can elect for that square to be square T, it doesn't. Basically, if you're attacking a non-adjacent creature, the first step is "Imagine I'm using a longbow. Does he have cover against my arrows?" That's the answer to "Does he have cover against my glaive?" -Hyp. [/QUOTE]

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