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Message: <blockquote data-quote="frankthedm" data-source="post: 6029105" data-attributes="member: 1164">Was this door at the end of a 5' hallway? If there was a space to the side of the door, then the rogue should have been able to move to the side then fire. He'd still suffer -4 to hit for firing into melee, but he'd use the rules for "choose a corner of your square" to not suffer from cover with his crossbow shot. The Rogue WOULD have cover from the guard, blocking the AoO. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/ponder.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":hmm:" title="Hmmm    :hmm:" data-shortname=":hmm:" /><img src="http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/2239/coverthedoor.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" />A fine example of the nuances of the combt grid. If it seems off, remember the ogre in the official example; the rogue didn't have cover against the ogre. By choosing a square of his not adjacent to the rogue, the ogre got to use his reach attack the way ranged attacks work with cover.<img src="http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/4599/cheatercq.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">When making a melee attack against a target that isn't adjacent to you (such as with a reach weapon), use the rules for determining cover from ranged attacks.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">To determine whether your target has cover from your ranged attack, choose a corner of your square. If any line from this corner to any corner of the target's square passes through a square or border that blocks line of effect or provides cover, or through a square occupied by a creature, the target has cover (+4 to AC). [*]Any creature with a space larger than 5 feet (1 square) determines cover against melee attacks slightly differently than smaller creatures do. Such a creature can choose any square that it occupies to determine if an opponent has cover against its melee attacks.</li> </ul>Personally, the grid rules leave me longing for Templates and Tape Measures.<img src="http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/9481/tapemeasuresandtemplate.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></blockquote>

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