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<blockquote data-quote="Empirate" data-source="post: 6151525" data-attributes="member: 78958"><p>Wasn't it you yourself who called it "Summon Jello IV"? The solid fog slows a person, but won't stop it. In fact, there is no evidence in the spell description that the movement of anything is actually stopped in a solid fog. It just slows stuff down, and doesn't interact with magical missiles (rays and other; I'd imagine an Acid Arrow would likewise pass right through).</p><p></p><p>As for the Fireball line of sight/effect thing: The spell description states you just decide on a distance and height where the fireball will detonate, so I read this as not needing LoS. Line of effect has in fact an error on my part, as I see upon rethinking the whole thing. I would alter my earlier statement and say that the fireball bead does need line of effect (but not LoS); however, Solid Fog doesn't block line of effect for magical stuff.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Your comparison of solid fog and water is interesting. In fact, the attack/damage penalties within a solid fog spell are suspiciously similar to those incurred for fighting underwater, as is the falling damage reduction. The movement penalties are even harsher than those for moving underwater.</p><p>However, a Solid Fog can be breathed by air-breathing creatures. So it doesn't exist in a different aggregate state from normal air. Therefore, it doesn't act as a physical "barrier", which can only mean a phase interface if we're talking physics.</p><p></p><p>As far as real-world comparisons are concerned, I'm not convinced by the water comparison and wouldn't call Solid Fog "solid", despite the name (for other unfittingly named spells, consider "Doom", which produces minor penalties instead of doom, or "Darkness", which can be used to make the surroundings brighter). Since the fireball's bead doesn't encounter a phase interface, I'd say it travels on unhindered.</p><p>If we're talking pure rules, I'm still unmoved. Since the Solid Fog spell description states that magical missiles like rays aren't stopped, I'd say the fireball bead would behave likewise and still travels on unhindered.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Empirate, post: 6151525, member: 78958"] Wasn't it you yourself who called it "Summon Jello IV"? The solid fog slows a person, but won't stop it. In fact, there is no evidence in the spell description that the movement of anything is actually stopped in a solid fog. It just slows stuff down, and doesn't interact with magical missiles (rays and other; I'd imagine an Acid Arrow would likewise pass right through). As for the Fireball line of sight/effect thing: The spell description states you just decide on a distance and height where the fireball will detonate, so I read this as not needing LoS. Line of effect has in fact an error on my part, as I see upon rethinking the whole thing. I would alter my earlier statement and say that the fireball bead does need line of effect (but not LoS); however, Solid Fog doesn't block line of effect for magical stuff. Your comparison of solid fog and water is interesting. In fact, the attack/damage penalties within a solid fog spell are suspiciously similar to those incurred for fighting underwater, as is the falling damage reduction. The movement penalties are even harsher than those for moving underwater. However, a Solid Fog can be breathed by air-breathing creatures. So it doesn't exist in a different aggregate state from normal air. Therefore, it doesn't act as a physical "barrier", which can only mean a phase interface if we're talking physics. As far as real-world comparisons are concerned, I'm not convinced by the water comparison and wouldn't call Solid Fog "solid", despite the name (for other unfittingly named spells, consider "Doom", which produces minor penalties instead of doom, or "Darkness", which can be used to make the surroundings brighter). Since the fireball's bead doesn't encounter a phase interface, I'd say it travels on unhindered. If we're talking pure rules, I'm still unmoved. Since the Solid Fog spell description states that magical missiles like rays aren't stopped, I'd say the fireball bead would behave likewise and still travels on unhindered. [/QUOTE]
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