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<blockquote data-quote="Wulffolk" data-source="post: 7265616" data-attributes="member: 6871450"><p>This is the crux of where our views diverge. There are at least two types of players here:</p><p>One prefers to have fun telling a story with friends and using the system to help them do that. Role-Player.</p><p>The other has fun manipulating the system to win a perceived competition with other players. War-Gamer.</p><p></p><p>Both are equally valid ways to have fun, assuming that the others at your table are on the same page. The problem comes when you try to have fun in mixed company. Larry's player would not be welcome for very long by the group that he tries to steal the spotlight from by proving his system mastery. Just like somebody who doesn't optimize would be considered the weak link in the other group.</p><p></p><p>I could have fun with either group, as long as I knew ahead of time what the expectations were. However, I much prefer the Role-Players over the War-Gamers when it comes to playing D&D, just like I prefer intellectuals and nerds over the meat-heads at the gym when it comes to real life, even though I used to have a competitive athletic side to my life.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wulffolk, post: 7265616, member: 6871450"] This is the crux of where our views diverge. There are at least two types of players here: One prefers to have fun telling a story with friends and using the system to help them do that. Role-Player. The other has fun manipulating the system to win a perceived competition with other players. War-Gamer. Both are equally valid ways to have fun, assuming that the others at your table are on the same page. The problem comes when you try to have fun in mixed company. Larry's player would not be welcome for very long by the group that he tries to steal the spotlight from by proving his system mastery. Just like somebody who doesn't optimize would be considered the weak link in the other group. I could have fun with either group, as long as I knew ahead of time what the expectations were. However, I much prefer the Role-Players over the War-Gamers when it comes to playing D&D, just like I prefer intellectuals and nerds over the meat-heads at the gym when it comes to real life, even though I used to have a competitive athletic side to my life. [/QUOTE]
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