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<blockquote data-quote="bloodtide" data-source="post: 8962667" data-attributes="member: 6684958"><p>This is the point I'm making too, so I can give an answer.</p><p></p><p>You can act the way a smart person might act. This is what actors do. But it's not real.</p><p></p><p>You can not ever act like you are a smart person. If you could do that you WOULD be a smart person.</p><p></p><p>Take the basic set up:</p><p></p><p>Rob is smart: he always comes up with clever ideas, always has a plan and is quite aware of things. Playing the game is easy and fun for him. He makes the right calls most of the time and it's rare he falls for tricks or traps.</p><p>Kevin is not so smart, and is in awe. He wishes to be like Kevin, but he is clueless. But he will say to the DM "I want to play a smart character"</p><p></p><p>So Kevin makes a INT 20 character. Just a couple minutes into the game he encounters a problem to solve. Kevin is just as clueless as he has ever been. Rob could solve the problem in seconds. Kevin just sits there and says "I don't know". Then the DM has Kevin make a skill check and when he makes the check, the DM tells Kevin what his character figured out. Then Kevin can "role play" knowing the solution. </p><p></p><p>Kevin is not "playing" a smart character, he is playing a follower character that does what they are told. </p><p></p><p>Well, most games have intelligence rules. So if you make a INT 18 character you get what is in the rules. Is the "my smart character can roll and have the DM tell me stuff" is a lot more of a house rule then a game rule. Unless there is really a game out there that says "when you as a player need help playing a character smarter then you are, you can make an intelligence check and the DM can tell you things so you can role play being smart".</p><p></p><p>This works both ways though. If you are of average intelligence you can act like "Forrest Gump’s dumb cousin". And IF your a really good role player you would do it ALL the time. Though, that is not exactly true for many players....because as soon as acting like "Forrest Gump’s dumb cousin" MIGHT get the character in trouble or killed they will SUDDENLY act super smart.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bloodtide, post: 8962667, member: 6684958"] This is the point I'm making too, so I can give an answer. You can act the way a smart person might act. This is what actors do. But it's not real. You can not ever act like you are a smart person. If you could do that you WOULD be a smart person. Take the basic set up: Rob is smart: he always comes up with clever ideas, always has a plan and is quite aware of things. Playing the game is easy and fun for him. He makes the right calls most of the time and it's rare he falls for tricks or traps. Kevin is not so smart, and is in awe. He wishes to be like Kevin, but he is clueless. But he will say to the DM "I want to play a smart character" So Kevin makes a INT 20 character. Just a couple minutes into the game he encounters a problem to solve. Kevin is just as clueless as he has ever been. Rob could solve the problem in seconds. Kevin just sits there and says "I don't know". Then the DM has Kevin make a skill check and when he makes the check, the DM tells Kevin what his character figured out. Then Kevin can "role play" knowing the solution. Kevin is not "playing" a smart character, he is playing a follower character that does what they are told. Well, most games have intelligence rules. So if you make a INT 18 character you get what is in the rules. Is the "my smart character can roll and have the DM tell me stuff" is a lot more of a house rule then a game rule. Unless there is really a game out there that says "when you as a player need help playing a character smarter then you are, you can make an intelligence check and the DM can tell you things so you can role play being smart". This works both ways though. If you are of average intelligence you can act like "Forrest Gump’s dumb cousin". And IF your a really good role player you would do it ALL the time. Though, that is not exactly true for many players....because as soon as acting like "Forrest Gump’s dumb cousin" MIGHT get the character in trouble or killed they will SUDDENLY act super smart. [/QUOTE]
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