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<blockquote data-quote="Musing Mage" data-source="post: 8564987" data-attributes="member: 7025552">HERESY!&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />Seriously... to your points. As someone who has yet to meet a ruleset that he doesn't want to find house rules for, I can relate to coming up with a bunch of options. So first I'll warn that a few can be fun, but don't overdo it, you'll find it can start to interfere.Second - what rule set are you playing? You say OSR but that's a rather blanket term...&nbsp; so it's hard to analyze the specific manuevers without knowing the system to which they will apply. Some systems already use Attacks of Opportunity in some way, so might not be a concern, others not. Attacks of opportunity can be very punitive in OSR games, where creatures often do siginificant damage and PCs have a lower number of hit points.For your Thief Variant, the bonuses seem pretty strong - but where are the drawbacks? What is the trade-off for taking this class over the standard thief? It had better be significant or why would anyone ever take the default? Maybe they lose the hide in Shadow and Move silently skills, along with Finding and removing traps... for starters. Perhaps Minimal attribute requirements - 14 dex and Charisma... things like that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Musing Mage, post: 8564987, member: 7025552"] HERESY! :p Seriously... to your points. As someone who has yet to meet a ruleset that he doesn't want to find house rules for, I can relate to coming up with a bunch of options. So first I'll warn that a few can be fun, but don't overdo it, you'll find it can start to interfere. Second - what rule set are you playing? You say OSR but that's a rather blanket term... so it's hard to analyze the specific manuevers without knowing the system to which they will apply. Some systems already use Attacks of Opportunity in some way, so might not be a concern, others not. Attacks of opportunity can be very punitive in OSR games, where creatures often do siginificant damage and PCs have a lower number of hit points. For your Thief Variant, the bonuses seem pretty strong - but where are the drawbacks? What is the trade-off for taking this class over the standard thief? It had better be significant or why would anyone ever take the default? Maybe they lose the hide in Shadow and Move silently skills, along with Finding and removing traps... for starters. Perhaps Minimal attribute requirements - 14 dex and Charisma... things like that. [/QUOTE]

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