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<blockquote data-quote="Hawk Diesel" data-source="post: 7125211" data-attributes="member: 59848">Yea, that was the intent.I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. I don't really consider strength of 13 to be a high bar of entry. Plus, more advanced grappling and wrestling techniques absolutely require some degree of physical aptitude. I don't know that I would go that far. If grappling is akin to wrestling, it is very different being the one in control versus the one on the defensive. Having done a bit of wrestling in high school, I don't think that mechanic would make sense. What you describe is more representative of breaking a grapple and countering with your own. Which come to think of it, might not be a bad third option. Perhaps a better 3rd bullet would be:If a creature attempts to grapple you and fails, you may use a reaction to attempt to grapple that creature.I think it's been discussed pretty heavily that it's a poor feat adjustment. I think I may redesign it so that it grants a fighting style from the fighter's list.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hawk Diesel, post: 7125211, member: 59848"] Yea, that was the intent. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. I don't really consider strength of 13 to be a high bar of entry. Plus, more advanced grappling and wrestling techniques absolutely require some degree of physical aptitude. I don't know that I would go that far. If grappling is akin to wrestling, it is very different being the one in control versus the one on the defensive. Having done a bit of wrestling in high school, I don't think that mechanic would make sense. What you describe is more representative of breaking a grapple and countering with your own. Which come to think of it, might not be a bad third option. Perhaps a better 3rd bullet would be: If a creature attempts to grapple you and fails, you may use a reaction to attempt to grapple that creature. I think it's been discussed pretty heavily that it's a poor feat adjustment. I think I may redesign it so that it grants a fighting style from the fighter's list. [/QUOTE]

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