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Message: <blockquote data-quote="frankthedm" data-source="post: 3227230" data-attributes="member: 1164">Oh, mine are weaker than those since each one of those has a 1st level spell tossed in IIRC. Mine are more flexible.Caster level 1 or use cleric/wizard level instead.Oh yeah, any PRCs I allow require roleplaying and ordeal based entry, rather than X feat, +N BAB, and Y ranks in a skill.Sneak passed some mid level guards, negotiate with a beared devil and then sunder his weapon in ritual combat is the example Unearthed arcana gave for Blackguard.I'd let someone go into Dwarven Defender without the prerequirements, though the ordeal will be such that they are going to wish they had stability, a racial con boost, toughness and the body frame to fit into the ceremonial dwarven armor one has to wear for the trial.</blockquote>