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<blockquote data-quote="mellored" data-source="post: 6777824" data-attributes="member: 6801209">To compare... assuming archery style.Sharpshooter1d8+13 * .36 = 6.3 damageNo penalty for coverNo penalty for long range+2 Dex+1d8+4 * .65 = 5.525 damage (.775 lower)+1 initiative+1 AC+1 dex saves+1 stealth, slight of hand, and other things.So... doesn't seem like you need to get it to me...Yes.My cleric does.&nbsp; As could a wizard (who dips 1 level of cleric).There's room for both.If someone want's to be an archer but doesn't want to fiddle with the cover system, then it seems perfectly reasonable to allow a feat to ignore it.&nbsp; Boring for you (and me), but some people want to spend their time doing other things then worry about positioning.That said, there's also room for a special arrow feat.&nbsp; Which sounds awesome.&nbsp; Or a whip feat that let's you trip, grapple, or swing on it.&nbsp; The rile idea is solid as well.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mellored, post: 6777824, member: 6801209"] To compare... assuming archery style. Sharpshooter 1d8+13 * .36 = 6.3 damage No penalty for cover No penalty for long range +2 Dex +1d8+4 * .65 = 5.525 damage (.775 lower) +1 initiative +1 AC +1 dex saves +1 stealth, slight of hand, and other things. So... doesn't seem like you need to get it to me... Yes. My cleric does. As could a wizard (who dips 1 level of cleric). There's room for both. If someone want's to be an archer but doesn't want to fiddle with the cover system, then it seems perfectly reasonable to allow a feat to ignore it. Boring for you (and me), but some people want to spend their time doing other things then worry about positioning. That said, there's also room for a special arrow feat. Which sounds awesome. Or a whip feat that let's you trip, grapple, or swing on it. The rile idea is solid as well. [/QUOTE]

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