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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 8628497" data-attributes="member: 6801845">If you're someone I've never played with I would reject a homebrew class as well.&nbsp; I don't know you, as a DM with an open game I've always had plenty of players willing to join that don't have special requirements.&nbsp; I can't imagine asking to join a game while also saying I wanted to play a custom class unless the DM explicitly asked for such things.&nbsp; It's not a problem with flexibility, I&nbsp; try to do cool things for my players all the time, it's about trust.&nbsp; Trust has to be earned.From what I remember of the exotic races threads it was basically some DMs (including me) saying &quot;I limit races because [insert reasons here]&quot; and always getting the response &quot;But you could ...&quot;.&nbsp; Well, yes, I could.&nbsp; I could allow you to play a battle droid from Star Wars that used dual blasters.&nbsp; It might even be a fun game.&nbsp; It wouldn't fit the theme and history of my world.&nbsp; At a certain point a DM has to decide what makes sense for their campaign.&nbsp; If it's &quot;strident&quot; that as a DM I retain the right to say no, then we have a different definition of that word.At a certain point you just have to accept that nobody is selling what you're looking for, at least not sight unseen.&nbsp; I don't see any &quot;disdain&quot; for optional rules.&nbsp; I simply think what you're asking for out of the box is asking too much.&nbsp; Try backing off on requests like custom classes, compromise a bit on what you play and then after the DM knows you ask for other options.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 8628497, member: 6801845"] If you're someone I've never played with I would reject a homebrew class as well. I don't know you, as a DM with an open game I've always had plenty of players willing to join that don't have special requirements. I can't imagine asking to join a game while also saying I wanted to play a custom class unless the DM explicitly asked for such things. It's not a problem with flexibility, I try to do cool things for my players all the time, it's about trust. Trust has to be earned. From what I remember of the exotic races threads it was basically some DMs (including me) saying "I limit races because [insert reasons here]" and always getting the response "But you [I]could [/I]...". Well, yes, I could. I could allow you to play a battle droid from Star Wars that used dual blasters. It might even be a fun game. It wouldn't fit the theme and history of my world. At a certain point a DM has to decide what makes sense for their campaign. If it's "strident" that as a DM I retain the right to say no, then we have a different definition of that word. At a certain point you just have to accept that nobody is selling what you're looking for, at least not sight unseen. I don't see any "disdain" for optional rules. I simply think what you're asking for out of the box is asking too much. Try backing off on requests like custom classes, compromise a bit on what you play and then [I]after the DM knows you[/I] ask for other options. [/QUOTE]

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