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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shallown" data-source="post: 1562734" data-attributes="member: 1368">Okay I'm coming at this from A different angle.Was this the way the Barbarian was raised. I mean does he see showing pain as weakness and such. I think a lot of people are pushing 20th century ideasof brutality on to this less civilized world. I could see turning this around and letting the elven princess realize that the reason she has been captured and used is becuase she is weak. Maybe she needs this to break her out of being a victim. Maybe he can break her down and rebuild her.Now this sounds cruel etc. It is .. life can be cruel. Up side she becomes tough like the Barb.Now to the evil GM downside. She becomes like the Barb. Meaning cruel rough and uncaring. She becomes very unelven in a sense. She mighty turn into a tyranical elven ruler or a difficult bitchy princess that is abusive. It could be a great roleplaying opportunity to show the Barb that maybe his training methods and the ones used on him are not always the best way.I would take this opportunity to play it out.And no I don't think this is morally acceptable behavior but its a game that can be used to play out this situation that may not be neccessarily straight out evil but in a gray area, a very dark grey area but still.Later</blockquote>