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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 5144756" data-attributes="member: 19675">Thats the Ranger & Rogue, right?  As I recall, though, the Rogue powers require blades...and they're not all that durable and straightforward.  Rogues are subtle and sneaky- Hellboy is as subtle as a crowbar to the side of the face.Good point about the gauntlet not interfering with drawing his Warlock implement, though.I figured they'd synergize well.To explain, I'm still trying to develop his personality and some schticks.  TB was my first 4Ed concept, and I knew he had to be a Bard of some kind...but that got derailed by the late intro of that class.  As a result, development of him as a character got shelved.Box had the advantage of being worked out in 3.5 first.  Even though he never got played, the concept behind the PC was fully developed.Ultimately, I want to work both of them out, since I like to have options, just in case a DM doesn't like what I'm doing...and also so that I could provide a PC to someone who may not have the time or have the inclination to design a PC for themselves.I don't know that TB's laid-back nature dovetails too well with the regimented mentality and militaristic aspects of the Paladin class, but you may be on to something about hooking him up with the Divine...or Nature?  And you've definitely rounded him out a bit with that "Surfer-ist" attitude.What about Bard/Druid?</blockquote>