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<blockquote data-quote="Obryn" data-source="post: 5147372" data-attributes="member: 11821"><p>That's pretty much a staple of post-PHB1 class design. A quick overview...</p><p></p><p>All newer classes (and about half of the PHB1 ones) have a single primary attack stat. This stat is used for all of their attacks. They also have (at least) two secondary stats, most often related to a "subclass" so to speak. This is what's called an "A-shaped" class, if you've seen that term bandied about. (Some PHB1 classes - the Warlock, Cleric, Paladin, and kinda the Ranger - are V-shaped, with two primary attack stats and a third common stat for other effects.)</p><p></p><p>I don't think there'd be an issue with reflavoring a Monk to use Strength as their primary attack stat. I'd check with your DM about doing something about your AC, though.</p><p></p><p><strong>3) </strong>I don't think Box as a solo/primary Infernal Warlock fits the Hellboy side of the Hellboy/Hellraiser theme. ... That said, I'm still going to take a closer look at mneme's suggestion about Eldritch Strike. (Where is that, BTW? I'm not in front of my 4Ed PHB at the moment, but I only recall Eldritch Blast.)</p></blockquote><p>It was in a PHB Heroes minis set. I only know of it through the Character Builder; it can be chosen instead of Eldritch Blast. It's a Weapon attack, vs. AC, using either Constitution or Charisma. On a hit, it slides the target 1. It can be used as a basic attack.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, though it's still crazy expensive, feat-wise and stat-wise, to get your Wizard into scale or plate armor. And once you've done that, you still probably don't have a better AC than a robed Wizard does given how a DEX/INT modifier only helps in Light Armor.</p><p></p><p>Basically, if you really want your wizard or warlock to wear armor, you can feel free. In fact, Leather Armor is a very common feat choice for Wizards. For a Warlock, you're probably about as well off in Hide as you would be in Chain, assuming you're keeping your Intelligence up; either one is a good feat choice.</p><p></p><p>-O</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="Obryn, post: 5147372, member: 11821"] That's pretty much a staple of post-PHB1 class design. A quick overview... All newer classes (and about half of the PHB1 ones) have a single primary attack stat. This stat is used for all of their attacks. They also have (at least) two secondary stats, most often related to a "subclass" so to speak. This is what's called an "A-shaped" class, if you've seen that term bandied about. (Some PHB1 classes - the Warlock, Cleric, Paladin, and kinda the Ranger - are V-shaped, with two primary attack stats and a third common stat for other effects.) I don't think there'd be an issue with reflavoring a Monk to use Strength as their primary attack stat. I'd check with your DM about doing something about your AC, though. [B]3) [/B]I don't think Box as a solo/primary Infernal Warlock fits the Hellboy side of the Hellboy/Hellraiser theme. ... That said, I'm still going to take a closer look at mneme's suggestion about Eldritch Strike. (Where is that, BTW? I'm not in front of my 4Ed PHB at the moment, but I only recall Eldritch Blast.)[/quote] It was in a PHB Heroes minis set. I only know of it through the Character Builder; it can be chosen instead of Eldritch Blast. It's a Weapon attack, vs. AC, using either Constitution or Charisma. On a hit, it slides the target 1. It can be used as a basic attack. Yes, though it's still crazy expensive, feat-wise and stat-wise, to get your Wizard into scale or plate armor. And once you've done that, you still probably don't have a better AC than a robed Wizard does given how a DEX/INT modifier only helps in Light Armor. Basically, if you really want your wizard or warlock to wear armor, you can feel free. In fact, Leather Armor is a very common feat choice for Wizards. For a Warlock, you're probably about as well off in Hide as you would be in Chain, assuming you're keeping your Intelligence up; either one is a good feat choice. -O [/QUOTE]
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