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<blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 3561638" data-attributes="member: 158">Sounds very much like what the DMG2 calls a &quot;casual&quot; player - someone you can always count on for a game, enjoys the social situation, but isn't a &quot;spotlight&quot; kind of player. If you're expecting the bard to always be a &quot;spotlight&quot; character, then the player is probably going to become frustrated. It sounds to me (in my totally uninformed opinion) that it's not a problem of player skill, it's a problem of player temperament, which isn't a problem per se. I just wouldn't expect her to speak up and be an active participant, or if you do she may start to hate playing. I would think she'd have this problem whether playing a wizard, priest, or barbarian, much less a bard or social character...To me, that's a very different situation from someone who's not a fast thinker on the fly being told they can't play. Me, I couldn't come up with an impromptu bluff to save my life, and enjoy playing a bard or charismatic cleric from time to time, but I would probably take issue with any GM who told me I COULDN'T play a part because I don't have a quick turn of phrase handy.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Henry, post: 3561638, member: 158"] Sounds very much like what the DMG2 calls a "casual" player - someone you can always count on for a game, enjoys the social situation, but isn't a "spotlight" kind of player. If you're expecting the bard to always be a "spotlight" character, then the player is probably going to become frustrated. It sounds to me (in my totally uninformed opinion) that it's not a problem of player skill, it's a problem of player temperament, which isn't a problem per se. I just wouldn't expect her to speak up and be an active participant, or if you do she may start to hate playing. I would think she'd have this problem whether playing a wizard, priest, or barbarian, much less a bard or social character... To me, that's a very different situation from someone who's not a fast thinker on the fly being told they can't play. Me, I couldn't come up with an impromptu bluff to save my life, and enjoy playing a bard or charismatic cleric from time to time, but I would probably take issue with any GM who told me I COULDN'T play a part because I don't have a quick turn of phrase handy. [/QUOTE]

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