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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ClemLOR" data-source="post: 4549788" data-attributes="member: 78846">D&D 3.0 DMG pg 29fGreetings, let me try this ...In your question you refer to a special-versus-spell-something about the assassine in the D&D 3.0 DMG, right so far? I have checked it on pg29f and have not found anything speaking of special vs. spell ...What I see is, that in the class table listing the base attack bonus and the saves there also is the listing of the specials and the spells. They don't work against each other, they are cumulative. So, a lvl 1 assassine for instance gains sneak attack +1d6, death attack and poison as special class abilities; additionaly, if he matches the spell requirements, he may be able to cast one arcane spell of spell lvl 1 once per day as an effective spellcaster lvl 1 concerning this spell. This, too, means, that a lvl 10 assassine may use ALL special class abilities mentioned on this list and, if he matches the requirements about spellcasting, he may cast at least 2 spell lvl 1, 2 spell lvl2, 2 spell lvl 3 and 1 spell lvl 4 spells per day as an effective spellcaster lvl 10 magic user ... Does this attempt to "explain things" help you a little bit? GreetingsClemLOR</blockquote>