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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Inconsequenti-AL" data-source="post: 1536315" data-attributes="member: 6584">I'd have to say I disagree with your take. I think the Charisma of the player and the charisma of the character ought to be kept somewhat separate. Social skills are the way to do this.As a GM, I tend to have them roll their skill before they start talking to an NPC. Depending on the result - that's how 'easy' I'm going to make the discussion we then have - how much slack they get cut... This also gets scaled towards the social skills of the player in question. I tend to give the more 'gobby' players a harder time by default.So:Really bad ideas can make a great roll useless. A really good idea can get you somewhere... even with a bad roll.A really good roll can compensate for a poor idea.Which suits us pretty well... At the moment it's a new policy and still doesn't apply all the time and I slip back into favouring the smart/charismatic players, even if their characters Cha/Int scores are single digit!</blockquote>