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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Azizar" data-source="post: 1536535" data-attributes="member: 9473">Social skills''Actually, depending on definition, having the outcome of social situations decided by a dice roll and the use of skills like diplomacy and bluff is roleplaying. The player (whatever his personal social skills) involved is playing the role of a character who has certain skills and is succeeding or failing based on the character's abilities, not his own. Just like the weedy little English professor (that would be me ) playing the role of a hulking half-orc barbarian uses the dice and the high Str and BAB scores to do so.''You are right, but let's call it 'playing it out and base the results on what happend instead on what is rolled' then. So not just: ' you rolled 20 ? Ok, you convinced the chief to let your friends go. He also packs cookies for your way back home....' but actually playing the whole scene in character and decide what happeds next.But i think it was not nessasary to say this, because, although I defined roleplaying wrong, you understanded the question.Ok, back to the social skills. How about removing social skills from the game ? What would be the effect of that ? I know, it makes it harder for naturally un-charismatic players to play a charismatic character. But as a dm, you could take that in consideration, and give him a chance to maybe 'outshine' himself in the game. It could make charisma an even more likely target for 'stat dumping' but on the other side, it could make charisma more important, because you cannot compensate the dumpstat with ranks in a skill (like 6 charisma, but 14 ranks in diplomacy). You can also design social feats to compensate, like a feat called Diplomacy, with a charisma prereq., which gives the character the skill of engaging in a formal negotiation or a Feat called fast talking or innuendo, feinting etc. Not just feats that give you a bonus to diplomacy or bluff. An effect will be that more power will go to the Dm, because there are no set dc's. Another effect will be that classes such as the rogue and the bard will suffer because part of their appeil and power is drawn from social skills. You will have to think about something to compensate. How do you feel about this ? Do you have suggestions ?P.s Sorry for the bad grammer and spelling, But as a Brabander I am not used to write in english</blockquote>

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