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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Troll Lord" data-source="post: 45163" data-attributes="member: 1163">John,Sorry if this rambles, but its Sunday and I just ran out of Dr. Pepper!Glad to hear you've got the book and are absorbing its content so well.  That's some close reading your doing there  . . . <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />  I think the answer would be a qualified "yes," some of the gods were very active in the affairs of men.Gods have in the past played an important role in the making of Erde.  However, one should take into account that the history, as detailed in the book, is some 15000 years of recorded history and some countless number of years before recorded history.   The divine interventions actually aren't as frequent as it may seem.That said, the gods do intervene in the affairs of men.  But not until the Winter Dark Wars did they do so directly.  Only a handful (the All Father, Thorax, Modrius and then Unklar) actually physically worked with men . . . the others did  so through their minions.As you know the gods are divided into three sections, the Eternals, Spirits and Immortals.  I'm assuming (correct me if I'm wrong) that your really referencing the Immortals, as the Eternals are almost untouchable and many "dead" and the Spirits, though active, don't really get 'down and dirty' as the saying goes. The ancient rule, set at the time of "Corthain's Judgement" (where he doomed men to short lives) was to keep men and gods separate.  Though no law or force kept this rule, only the integrity of the gods.A thousand years later Unklar set aside this rule, for he was different than all the others, but for the All Father.  Unklar intervened constantly and shaped men as he did the world.  Thus he built the world of Winter's Dark.But the Immortals, particularly during the Winter Dark wars immeshed themselves in the wars against Unklar. They did so, for Unklar had done so. These were partially diefied, legendary people, who gathered great followings during the wars.  And in Erde to be worshipped is to gain divine power, the idea being that the collective will of the worshipers embues the recipient with their own power (a not uncommon theme in game worlds I think).  So during the wars the presence of the gods (the Immortals) was common.That said, since the fall of the Winter Dark these Immortals have attempted to remove themselves from the world of men, harking back to the spirit of Corthain, who most of the gods, (many folk on Erde only know of him as the hint of a legend) turn to as the Lord of the All Father's Creation.So now, in the age of the Young Kingdoms the gods have removed themselves and try to play a less active role, the problem of course is that the powers of Unklar are still around.  And the wizard god Nulak-Kiz-Din follows his master's (Unklar) dictums about intervening in the affairs of men.A second post on Dragons and Mogrl in a moment.</blockquote>

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