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<blockquote data-quote="pawned79" data-source="post: 3085690" data-attributes="member: 9284">Are we saying that a hidden opponient does catch you flat-footed if you fail to spot them? Even if you saw your opponient run behind cover but then lost sight of them in the middle of a combat?For example, lets say there is a big brawl going on outside. There are half a dozen people fighting another half a dozen people. Some with swords, and some with arrows. You are a sword guy and you go first and hit the nearest opponient with your sword. Your turn is done. Next some opponient twenty feet from you with a crossbow steps behind a cart and hides. His turn is done. Next round eventually comes. You do not spot the fellow that is now hiding with his crossbow behind the cart. You hit your melee opponient with your sword again to end your turn. Next, the crossbowman shoots at you and hits. Are you flat-footed to the crossbowman? Do you receive sneak attack damage?Does Hide beats Spot always yield a flat-footed sneak-attackable status?Patrick</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pawned79, post: 3085690, member: 9284"] Are we saying that a hidden opponient does catch you flat-footed if you fail to spot them? Even if you saw your opponient run behind cover but then lost sight of them in the middle of a combat? For example, lets say there is a big brawl going on outside. There are half a dozen people fighting another half a dozen people. Some with swords, and some with arrows. You are a sword guy and you go first and hit the nearest opponient with your sword. Your turn is done. Next some opponient twenty feet from you with a crossbow steps behind a cart and hides. His turn is done. Next round eventually comes. You do not spot the fellow that is now hiding with his crossbow behind the cart. You hit your melee opponient with your sword again to end your turn. Next, the crossbowman shoots at you and hits. Are you flat-footed to the crossbowman? Do you receive sneak attack damage? Does Hide beats Spot always yield a flat-footed sneak-attackable status? Patrick [/QUOTE]

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