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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mikebr99" data-source="post: 3089698" data-attributes="member: 1377">But b)hide can't be accomplished without HiPS.... because the target is certainly going to be watching you if you just attacked him.And if by a) attack... you mean shoot someone with an arrow or bolt, then you have to use the sniping mechanic, or the attack wont get the extra SA damage.If by a) attack... you mean that you are stabing someone, then the rules in Complete Adventurer outline the amount of distance you can travel and the Hide penalties associated with getting there to stab once... but you wouldn't have any actions left in your round to b) hide... as you've used both your move  and your std. actions already. Spring Attacking from a hidden position could get you there... attack once and then back behind cover though.Mike</blockquote>