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<blockquote data-quote="ConcreteBuddha" data-source="post: 136501" data-attributes="member: 3139"><p>"This ability works just as described on page 114 of the Psionics Handbook." -unofficial web Soulblade by Bruce Cordell</p><p></p><p>This doesn't clear up anything. </p><p></p><p>"The soul knife is a class spell like ability, and the damage is based on the level of the psionic not the size."</p><p></p><p>A nitpick: the damage is not based on the level of the soulblade. A soulblade can manifest a long sword at 8th level. The damage is that of the long sword, not the soulblade. You are thinking of it as if it's a monk. </p><p></p><p>"At the moment I can not think of a single spell that will do damage that is variable by the size of the caster."</p><p></p><p>"I'm going to have to agree with rhammer on this one. Just because the creature is huge I don't think his mind-blade damage should change. It's a mental effect think Yoda and Luke, size does not matter."</p><p></p><p>Along these lines:</p><p></p><p>Are you guys seriously trying to tell me that if a Storm Giant Psion were to manifest, say, Call Weaponry, it would be a Human Sized weapon?</p><p></p><p>That manifestation's damage "is variable by the size of the caster". So is Polymorph Self and Shapechange. It's based on the size of the weapon the character can wield, not the actual spell itself. </p><p></p><p>Real Weapon vs. Psionic Effect</p><p></p><p>Now I would agree that damage shouldn't change if this were something like Spiritual Weapon or Flame Blade, were feats and strength do not count.</p><p></p><p>But I contend that it is a "Creation" manifestation and that the blade is real in every way. Hence, why it can be broken, you can use feats on it, and it gets a strength bonus or penalty to damage. </p><p></p><p>"As long as he holds the blade, it is identical in all ways (except visually) to a short sword" pg 114</p><p></p><p>If the damage was purely psionic, as you guys propose, then SR or PR would apply to damage from a mind-blade, and DR would not. </p><p></p><p>Since this is not the case, we must assume that a "real" weapon is doing the damage. And a "real weapon's" damage is based on size.</p><p></p><p>Now I feel it was an oversight on the maker of the PrC to not include alternate sizes for the Soulblade.</p><p></p><p>I just think it's silly that a twenty foot tall creature would be wielding a one foot mind-blade.</p><p></p><p>I also don't consider it "overpowering" at all. </p><p></p><p>So what if your player's got a Psi Warrior/Soulblade who polymorph selfs into a Troll and uses his large long-sword-mind-blade? He does what....2d6 damage! Who cares? He's Level 18!</p><p></p><p>Anyway, do whatever floats your boat...but if you make a mind-blade into a Magic-Missile-Stuck-to-your-Hand, please be consistent and not give the characters a bonus or penalty to damage based on Str, don't let the blade be disarmed or broken, and make sure PR is effective against it, not DR.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ConcreteBuddha, post: 136501, member: 3139"] "This ability works just as described on page 114 of the Psionics Handbook." -unofficial web Soulblade by Bruce Cordell This doesn't clear up anything. "The soul knife is a class spell like ability, and the damage is based on the level of the psionic not the size." A nitpick: the damage is not based on the level of the soulblade. A soulblade can manifest a long sword at 8th level. The damage is that of the long sword, not the soulblade. You are thinking of it as if it's a monk. "At the moment I can not think of a single spell that will do damage that is variable by the size of the caster." "I'm going to have to agree with rhammer on this one. Just because the creature is huge I don't think his mind-blade damage should change. It's a mental effect think Yoda and Luke, size does not matter." Along these lines: Are you guys seriously trying to tell me that if a Storm Giant Psion were to manifest, say, Call Weaponry, it would be a Human Sized weapon? That manifestation's damage "is variable by the size of the caster". So is Polymorph Self and Shapechange. It's based on the size of the weapon the character can wield, not the actual spell itself. Real Weapon vs. Psionic Effect Now I would agree that damage shouldn't change if this were something like Spiritual Weapon or Flame Blade, were feats and strength do not count. But I contend that it is a "Creation" manifestation and that the blade is real in every way. Hence, why it can be broken, you can use feats on it, and it gets a strength bonus or penalty to damage. "As long as he holds the blade, it is identical in all ways (except visually) to a short sword" pg 114 If the damage was purely psionic, as you guys propose, then SR or PR would apply to damage from a mind-blade, and DR would not. Since this is not the case, we must assume that a "real" weapon is doing the damage. And a "real weapon's" damage is based on size. Now I feel it was an oversight on the maker of the PrC to not include alternate sizes for the Soulblade. I just think it's silly that a twenty foot tall creature would be wielding a one foot mind-blade. I also don't consider it "overpowering" at all. So what if your player's got a Psi Warrior/Soulblade who polymorph selfs into a Troll and uses his large long-sword-mind-blade? He does what....2d6 damage! Who cares? He's Level 18! Anyway, do whatever floats your boat...but if you make a mind-blade into a Magic-Missile-Stuck-to-your-Hand, please be consistent and not give the characters a bonus or penalty to damage based on Str, don't let the blade be disarmed or broken, and make sure PR is effective against it, not DR. [/QUOTE]
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