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Message: <blockquote data-quote="wingsandsword" data-source="post: 5739006" data-attributes="member: 14159">I'm no 4e fan, I've made no secret of this.  However, if I did want to switch over to 4e, or at least learn it, the learning curve would be ridiculous by this point.4e or Essentials? How many different books and revisions to get, not to mention having to subscribe to DDI to get all the information that many/most 4e groups are using.  The barriers to entry are now quite substantial.  With 1e or 2e, or even 3e and 3.5 you could pick up the "Core 3" and be done with it easily (most gamers I knew only had either a PHB or the "Core 3", and maybe one or 2 favorite splatbooks, it was GM's that collected them all).  4e seems like it was built to expect the players to use every book made and buy everything that came out.  Good business model if it works, but you can burn out the player base real quick.  There are only so many gaming dollars out there.It's honestly troubling when an edition is less than 4 years old and it's "long in the tooth" and that daunting to newcomers.1e lasted well over a decade before 2e came out. . . and 2e was made largely because of IP related business decisions by Williams.2e lasted 11 years before it was replaced.3e made it almost 8 years between 3e and 3.5e, and many fans still say it left too early.After less than 4 years people are just sitting around waiting on 5e?How many years between 5e and 6e?</blockquote>