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<blockquote data-quote="Jaeger" data-source="post: 8271260" data-attributes="member: 27996"><p>Players naturally project their own morality on PC's. </p><p></p><p>Everyone does it. I do it. It's human nature.</p><p></p><p>And it is the way D&D is played at the table.</p><p></p><p>Which is 100% ok. Nothing wrong with it at all.</p><p></p><p>As for the point I was making:</p><p><em>"This topic is about the Moral philosophies of heroic characters in a fantasy world. Not considerations and reflections on Fantastical Theology."</em></p><p></p><p>Morality and Theology are intertwined. For example; In western society we live in a culture that has been shaped by 2000 years of Christian morality. It doesn't matter if you are an atheist. Your notions of right and wrong are shaped by the general cultural mores and values you grew up with. Which in western society happens to have been largely shaped by Christianity.</p><p></p><p>If you are truly trying to imbue what a character that lives in a fantasy world's morality is like - then that morality will be shaped by the <em>Fantastical Theology</em> of the setting. The PC would have grown up under the influence of some gods moral tenets. Which should be reflected in how the character is played.</p><p></p><p>As much as this is NOT reflected in actual play in most D&D games is a commentary on how ridiculous D&D's cosmology actually is, as it is usually one of the first things that gets ignored. And deservedly so. (Yes clerics/paladins/warlocks etc. have to pay cosmological lip service - but this is all in the name of getting cool powers, so it is a small price to pay.)</p><p></p><p>So if we really are discussing <em>the Moral philosophies of heroic characters in a fantasy world...</em></p><p></p><p>Then the<em> Fantastical Theology </em>of that world <em>should</em> be part of the discussion.</p><p></p><p>Insomuch as the OP doesn't want it to be part of the discussion just goes to show just how good a job D&D's Fantastical Theology actually does of getting players to really engage with the theological tenets of their supposed gods into who their character is as a person in the setting. i.e. A really bad one.</p><p></p><p>Basically if you want a guide on how not to make a believable or engaging fantasy theology for your fantasy setting; look no further than your copy of the 5e DMG.</p><p></p><p>I will refrain from further injections of D&D's Fantastical Theology in a discussion about morality in D&D Fantasy Worlds as everyone seems to agree that it should be ignored anyway.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jaeger, post: 8271260, member: 27996"] Players naturally project their own morality on PC's. Everyone does it. I do it. It's human nature. And it is the way D&D is played at the table. Which is 100% ok. Nothing wrong with it at all. As for the point I was making: [I]"This topic is about the Moral philosophies of heroic characters in a fantasy world. Not considerations and reflections on Fantastical Theology."[/I] Morality and Theology are intertwined. For example; In western society we live in a culture that has been shaped by 2000 years of Christian morality. It doesn't matter if you are an atheist. Your notions of right and wrong are shaped by the general cultural mores and values you grew up with. Which in western society happens to have been largely shaped by Christianity. If you are truly trying to imbue what a character that lives in a fantasy world's morality is like - then that morality will be shaped by the [I]Fantastical Theology[/I] of the setting. The PC would have grown up under the influence of some gods moral tenets. Which should be reflected in how the character is played. As much as this is NOT reflected in actual play in most D&D games is a commentary on how ridiculous D&D's cosmology actually is, as it is usually one of the first things that gets ignored. And deservedly so. (Yes clerics/paladins/warlocks etc. have to pay cosmological lip service - but this is all in the name of getting cool powers, so it is a small price to pay.) So if we really are discussing [I]the Moral philosophies of heroic characters in a fantasy world...[/I] Then the[I] Fantastical Theology [/I]of that world [I]should[/I] be part of the discussion. Insomuch as the OP doesn't want it to be part of the discussion just goes to show just how good a job D&D's Fantastical Theology actually does of getting players to really engage with the theological tenets of their supposed gods into who their character is as a person in the setting. i.e. A really bad one. Basically if you want a guide on how not to make a believable or engaging fantasy theology for your fantasy setting; look no further than your copy of the 5e DMG. I will refrain from further injections of D&D's Fantastical Theology in a discussion about morality in D&D Fantasy Worlds as everyone seems to agree that it should be ignored anyway. [/QUOTE]
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