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<blockquote data-quote="Steampunkette" data-source="post: 8274740" data-attributes="member: 6796468"><p>That was really more of a Cardassian aspect of the statement, I apologize!</p><p></p><p>By "The State" I meant "Society and their place in it". I used the word State specifically so I could make the reference to "The Never Ending Sacrifice" from the Episode the Wire. In that episode, Julian Bashir tries to read his way through a ponderous tome that is the "Pinnacle" of Cardassian literature in which multiple generations of a family live selfless lives of service to the state, die, and pass their responsibilities to their children.</p><p></p><p>My apologies for the confusion.</p><p></p><p>Homeric Heroes are all about the status quo. About maintaining the way things "Should Be" in their lives and the lives of others. Those who strive for better wind up falling. Because overreaching your station and losing it all has been a common storytelling function since we started telling stories.</p><p></p><p>By being placed in the role of Monarch it's Arthur's duty to restore the status quo. Similarly, it's to his knights to act on his orders. Each takes up their place in society and holds it. Except Lancelot, who transgresses. After that moment, he spends most of his time killing in trial by combat, poisoning a dude, winds up killing Gawains brothers, and then when his betrayal is revealed by Morgan slaughters a crowd of Arthur's family trying to burn Guinevere including innocent and unarmed people who were explicitly dragged along to witness the event.</p><p></p><p>He kills Gawain (Granted he meant to spare him, but he messed -that- up) and is ultimately part of how Mordred's uprising is able to fight against his father and his knights, culminating in Arthur's eventual death.</p><p></p><p>It may not have the succinctness of Icarus flying too high, but damn does it tell the same moral: Stay in your place, damn it!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Steampunkette, post: 8274740, member: 6796468"] That was really more of a Cardassian aspect of the statement, I apologize! By "The State" I meant "Society and their place in it". I used the word State specifically so I could make the reference to "The Never Ending Sacrifice" from the Episode the Wire. In that episode, Julian Bashir tries to read his way through a ponderous tome that is the "Pinnacle" of Cardassian literature in which multiple generations of a family live selfless lives of service to the state, die, and pass their responsibilities to their children. My apologies for the confusion. Homeric Heroes are all about the status quo. About maintaining the way things "Should Be" in their lives and the lives of others. Those who strive for better wind up falling. Because overreaching your station and losing it all has been a common storytelling function since we started telling stories. By being placed in the role of Monarch it's Arthur's duty to restore the status quo. Similarly, it's to his knights to act on his orders. Each takes up their place in society and holds it. Except Lancelot, who transgresses. After that moment, he spends most of his time killing in trial by combat, poisoning a dude, winds up killing Gawains brothers, and then when his betrayal is revealed by Morgan slaughters a crowd of Arthur's family trying to burn Guinevere including innocent and unarmed people who were explicitly dragged along to witness the event. He kills Gawain (Granted he meant to spare him, but he messed -that- up) and is ultimately part of how Mordred's uprising is able to fight against his father and his knights, culminating in Arthur's eventual death. It may not have the succinctness of Icarus flying too high, but damn does it tell the same moral: Stay in your place, damn it! [/QUOTE]
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