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<blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 8918998" data-attributes="member: 63508"><p>My point is the 50/50 isn't what I consider to be easy. And some others might think so to. </p><p></p><p>So against is it supposed to be easy for a person with a 10 and no ability score.</p><p>Or is DC 10 supposed to be easy for a person with a 15 and proficiency in the roll?</p><p></p><p>Because here is the main rub.</p><p></p><p>A +2 does not have a significant change in the outcomes with a d20 roll. A +4 with advantage might, but a raw +2 doesn't. It takes a lot of rolls for a +2 to feel and be effective. But D&D pretends it does and uses language like it does. And this creates the meme of the cleric who doesn't know his own religion or the thief who can't pick locks.</p><p></p><p>This math and bonuses don't have to change. However at some point D&D has to man up an admit that a +2 doesn't matter as much as the big swings of the d20 or the 5 point gaps between DCs. And just picking stuff can have a DM pick the wrong DM for them.</p><p></p><p>That to me is missing to, how to choose. D&D tell the DM that they can choose and what they can choose. It doesn't inform them how to make the choice. Because picking a DC 10 vs a DC 20 is a big choice if failure or success is impactful.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Minigiant, post: 8918998, member: 63508"] My point is the 50/50 isn't what I consider to be easy. And some others might think so to. So against is it supposed to be easy for a person with a 10 and no ability score. Or is DC 10 supposed to be easy for a person with a 15 and proficiency in the roll? Because here is the main rub. A +2 does not have a significant change in the outcomes with a d20 roll. A +4 with advantage might, but a raw +2 doesn't. It takes a lot of rolls for a +2 to feel and be effective. But D&D pretends it does and uses language like it does. And this creates the meme of the cleric who doesn't know his own religion or the thief who can't pick locks. This math and bonuses don't have to change. However at some point D&D has to man up an admit that a +2 doesn't matter as much as the big swings of the d20 or the 5 point gaps between DCs. And just picking stuff can have a DM pick the wrong DM for them. That to me is missing to, how to choose. D&D tell the DM that they can choose and what they can choose. It doesn't inform them how to make the choice. Because picking a DC 10 vs a DC 20 is a big choice if failure or success is impactful. [/QUOTE]
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