RangerWickett
Legend
I heard something about them including superhero rules in their modern counters pack. Does anyone have these rules? How are they? Any good?
Someone tell me about Fiery Dragon's supers rules?
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RangerWickett
Legend
Well, come on then: how do the rules work?
tsadkiel
Legend
Okay, okay. First, let me mention that the book is about forty miles away from me right now; this is from memory, so it will be a little vague.
The rules are designed to drop into d20 Modern. Super Hero is an advanced class. It's even easier to get into than most advanced classes (the only pre-req is having at least one Action Point) and has a full 20 levels of advancement. (Even though the most you could really use is 19, unless you're in an Epic Modern game.) The class has customizable saves, and (IIRC) a middling BAB advancement.
Powers have ranks just like skills, and as you gain more ranks in a power, the power either develops extra advantages or loses disadvantages. In addition, each power has a "GO! Power" application, where you spend an Action Point and get an extra benefit temporarily.
When a character picks up the Super Hero class, they also select an origin (Altered Human is the only one listed in the preview; presumably Atomic City will have more) which gives you an ECL (3 for Altered Human) and a variable number of powers (AH get one at 3 ranks, one at two, and one at one IIRC.) each level of Super Hero gives you a Super Feat, which can get you more ranks of a power, extra tricks to use with existing powers, and occasionally a new power.
And that's basically it. It isn't nearly as flexible as something like M&M; the resulting characters also won't be as "super" - I wouldn't attempt the Justice League with these rules, but I think they'd handle the X-Men (especially Movie X-Men) quite nicely. However, it balances nicely with d20 Modern. I think the best use for the rules is to cover d20 Modern characters with extra abilities that aren't handled by the main rules - if I were doing a League of Extraordinary Gentlemen game, for instance, I'd use the Fiery Dragon rules for the Invisible Man and Mr. Hyde.
Of special interest to you - the Fiery Dragon rules use OGC from Four Colors to fantasy; I don't have 4CTF, so I don't know what.
The rules are designed to drop into d20 Modern. Super Hero is an advanced class. It's even easier to get into than most advanced classes (the only pre-req is having at least one Action Point) and has a full 20 levels of advancement. (Even though the most you could really use is 19, unless you're in an Epic Modern game.) The class has customizable saves, and (IIRC) a middling BAB advancement.
Powers have ranks just like skills, and as you gain more ranks in a power, the power either develops extra advantages or loses disadvantages. In addition, each power has a "GO! Power" application, where you spend an Action Point and get an extra benefit temporarily.
When a character picks up the Super Hero class, they also select an origin (Altered Human is the only one listed in the preview; presumably Atomic City will have more) which gives you an ECL (3 for Altered Human) and a variable number of powers (AH get one at 3 ranks, one at two, and one at one IIRC.) each level of Super Hero gives you a Super Feat, which can get you more ranks of a power, extra tricks to use with existing powers, and occasionally a new power.
And that's basically it. It isn't nearly as flexible as something like M&M; the resulting characters also won't be as "super" - I wouldn't attempt the Justice League with these rules, but I think they'd handle the X-Men (especially Movie X-Men) quite nicely. However, it balances nicely with d20 Modern. I think the best use for the rules is to cover d20 Modern characters with extra abilities that aren't handled by the main rules - if I were doing a League of Extraordinary Gentlemen game, for instance, I'd use the Fiery Dragon rules for the Invisible Man and Mr. Hyde.
Of special interest to you - the Fiery Dragon rules use OGC from Four Colors to fantasy; I don't have 4CTF, so I don't know what.
Fiery James
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tsadkiel said:
Yeah, if I recall correctly, there are a couple of 4CTF feats thrown in there to fill out the package! It was great inspiration!
Atomic City will be coming out this fall -- Jay Stephens, the creator of the Atomic City Tales comic that this is sort of based on -- is just finishing up some Saturday Morning animation deals (not for AC yet -- Tutenstein is first up, for those interested!), so we've pushed it back to accoodate his schedule.
The system has changed substantially since that initial draft. We've actually done away with the Superhero class all together! But, the core ideas are still there, if you look very closely.
I'm looking forward to the D20M version of 4CTF! Whoot!
- James
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