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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mercurius" data-source="post: 5019552" data-attributes="member: 59082">OK, I can buy that if there was a way to port new classes and such into Insider, particularly Character Builder. I can agree with your points as valid refutations of the surface of what I'm saying, but there is an underlying subtlety that you're not getting at: which is that the more recent D&D systems, or 4E at least, has a kind of "fixity" to it because of the inability to port customizations into Insider tools. In other words, because D&DI is a good thing people like to use it, but using it requires that you follow the rules it provides, which don't really allow for customization. 4E has focused on making D&D easier to play, on conveniences such as the tools provided by Insider, the stat blocks, tactics, and Powers in general. To re-use my own analogy, it has made it much easier to build with the blocks that are provided. But it hasn't made it easier to make your own blocks, at least if you want to use the conveniences that are provided. In other words, it seems that one has to make a choice: Either you play the game they provide and get all the fun conveniences, or you make it your own but you run the risk of making fun contraptions like Character Builder useless.I haven't seen this complaint before, at least not quite in this way. It could also be that I'm just late coming to this observation and this is what the detractors of 4E have been saying all along, or maybe I'm just missing something and not "getting it."That's kind of funny--what, exactly, do you agree with or are you, as I suspect, being dryly sarcastic?But you are right, of course, d20 was a great big toolkit of rules options. But not as much rules customization, or more specifically, rules creation.This relates to my analogy above: 3E gave tons of options and ideas on how to build with different pieces, but it didn't give you tools to make your own pieces. The same with 4E, but now with the fancy new box of blocks called Insider, which makes it even more alluring to keep to the rules as written.</blockquote>

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