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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ziggy" data-source="post: 440964" data-attributes="member: 148">It works pretty well for short distances, but not at all for longer ranges. Let's say that you have a 50% chance of spotting someone at 100 feet. If the same person is hiding under the same conditions at 200 feet, you'll have 0% chance of spotting him. While it's reasonable that its harder to spot at longer ranges, the penalty is far too steep.It gets more absurd if you have a really high difference in skill. Lets take the example of a high level ranger (Spot 30) vs. a 1st level fighter in plate (Hide -8). Both are taking 10. The ranger will have a 100% spot chance out to 380 feet, a 50% chance at 480 feet, and no chance at 580 feet or longer. Thus while he can spot the fighter perfectly at pretty long ranges (more than 100 yards), his vision degrades suddenly after that range, and he is invisible at 200 yards. The real world just doesn't work that way..Ziggy</blockquote>