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<blockquote data-quote="Andor" data-source="post: 5868523" data-attributes="member: 1879"><p>Which should mean you embrace the class + level based damage sytem I suggested, yes? I wouldn't violently object to that, but I think most would.</p><p></p><p>D&D usually tries to be at least a bit simulationist. 3e was the most simulationist edition, 4e was the least. Since the pendulum is swinging back a bit I expect 5e to try to be more simulationist than 4e. Why do I bring this up?</p><p></p><p>The weapon stats are simulationist in origin. In reality getting stabbed by a sword is deadlier than getting stabbed by a whiffle bat. Therefore D&D usually has weapons rules that make swords more effective weapons that whiffle bats. A sword is also deadlier than a whip, or a yo-yo. And it should be.</p><p></p><p>I do not agree with your notion that a most legendary master of whiffle bat combat to walk the earth should be just as feared as a swordsman, he's using a whiffle bat.</p><p></p><p>The real difference in deadliness between a dagger, a sword, a great axe or a mace is actually not enormous. A solid hit from any of them can kill you in one blow. In combat which one is superior depends on training, terrain, armour, etc. </p><p></p><p>A whip however is not a deadly weapon. It is a a compliance tool. You can kill someone with it, by strangleing them, by tripping them over a ledge, or with a lengthy and savage enough beating by shock and fluid loss. 50 lashes was a brutal sentance, but people did survive it, and those whips were being weilded by experience users. Do you think those people would have survived a sentance of 50 whacks from a sword?</p><p></p><p>So no, I don't think the whip, or yo-yo, or whiffle bat, or pasta should be just as valid a weapon choice as a sword or axe or spear. And I don't think being a PC should make you so special that you can kill people just as well with a deadly plastic spork as you could with bazooka. If that's true why would anyone have ever bothered to invent weapons or armour? They should just be killing each other with grass and hair, since it's just as effective.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Andor, post: 5868523, member: 1879"] Which should mean you embrace the class + level based damage sytem I suggested, yes? I wouldn't violently object to that, but I think most would. D&D usually tries to be at least a bit simulationist. 3e was the most simulationist edition, 4e was the least. Since the pendulum is swinging back a bit I expect 5e to try to be more simulationist than 4e. Why do I bring this up? The weapon stats are simulationist in origin. In reality getting stabbed by a sword is deadlier than getting stabbed by a whiffle bat. Therefore D&D usually has weapons rules that make swords more effective weapons that whiffle bats. A sword is also deadlier than a whip, or a yo-yo. And it should be. I do not agree with your notion that a most legendary master of whiffle bat combat to walk the earth should be just as feared as a swordsman, he's using a whiffle bat. The real difference in deadliness between a dagger, a sword, a great axe or a mace is actually not enormous. A solid hit from any of them can kill you in one blow. In combat which one is superior depends on training, terrain, armour, etc. A whip however is not a deadly weapon. It is a a compliance tool. You can kill someone with it, by strangleing them, by tripping them over a ledge, or with a lengthy and savage enough beating by shock and fluid loss. 50 lashes was a brutal sentance, but people did survive it, and those whips were being weilded by experience users. Do you think those people would have survived a sentance of 50 whacks from a sword? So no, I don't think the whip, or yo-yo, or whiffle bat, or pasta should be just as valid a weapon choice as a sword or axe or spear. And I don't think being a PC should make you so special that you can kill people just as well with a deadly plastic spork as you could with bazooka. If that's true why would anyone have ever bothered to invent weapons or armour? They should just be killing each other with grass and hair, since it's just as effective. [/QUOTE]
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