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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sadrik" data-source="post: 6012548" data-attributes="member: 14506">From the playtest v2. Perhaps a bit complex…Holding Your Breath and DrowningIf a character is swimming underwater intentionally (not as a result of a failed check), the character can hold his or her breath for a number of minutes equal to his or her Constitution modifier (minimum 30 seconds). A character who runs out of breath while underwater (usually as a hazard of a failed check) is drowning. While drowning, the character is restrained. As an action, a drowning character can make a Strength check to stop drowning. The DC to do so is at least 13, possibly higher if the water conditions warrant a more difficult check. The drowning character must breathe before a number of rounds pass equal to his or her Constitution modifier (minimum 1) or fall unconscious. Once unconscious, the drowning character loses all his or her remaining hit points. The character is dying and cannot be stabilized or recover hit points until he or she can breathe (either by being brought to the surface or by gaining the magical ability to breathe underwater). Once the character can breathe, normal means of restoring lost hit points can revive the character.So to break it down:<ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Can hold breath for CON mod in minutes</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Then, drowning if they fail a CON check or run out of breath (no CON check is required though)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">While drowning they gain the restrained condition.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">As an action, make a DC 13 STR check to stop drowning.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Drowning they have CON mod rounds to stop or gain the unconscious condition.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Unconscious and drowning lose all HP and gain dying condition but cannot stabilize or recover HP until breathing again.</li> </ol>Could this be adapted to all the other special cases? Yes... However should we have an entry for each of these cases? I think a unified system could really clear up many of these situations. This looks like a serious book look up in game play.Also, if HP are the preferred method of handling falling and all the other catastrophic damage things. If level 1 poison is the equivalent to a strong drink at 10th level. If starvation is something that only 1st level characters really have to deal with, and extreme pressure or vacuum is fine for a while if you are high enough level, I am not sure the game is going to be right. If HP loss is the right method it could look something like this:<ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Falling: 1d6/10’</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Starvation: 1d6/day</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Suffocation: 1d6/min up to con modifier and then per round</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Thirst: after a day 1d6/hour</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Toxins: 1d6 for contact, ingestion, or injection</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Diseases: 1d6/month</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Radiation: 1d6/min</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Pressure: 1d6/round</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Vacuum: 1d6/ round</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Attack Unaware: Sneak attack: bonus damage, or Coup de grace: automatic 0 hp then death on second attack</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Energy Drain: 1d6/attack</li> </ol></blockquote>

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