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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Argyle King" data-source="post: 6014813" data-attributes="member: 58416">I do generally agree that there should be drawbacks and strengths to each option.  I did not take from the original post of yours that I quoted that that was what you meant though.  I took what you had posted as meaning you didn't feel abilities such as flight and darkvision were potent enough to make much of a difference to balance.  If that is not what you meant, that I apologize for misunderstanding what you had said.Darkvision that can be thwarted is a little better, but it still -imo- leans a little toward favoring those with it and those without it.  The primary advantage to darkvision is being able to see in the dark.  Someone with it is going to play to their strengths while trying to diminish their drawbacks.  Staying away from light when you're trying to be stealthy in the dark is already something someone attempting stealth would do anyway; doubly so if they are trying to use darkvision.  For someone with a lantern to be close enough to disrupt darkvision, the person using light would need to already be aware there was something out there in the dark.Using actions to maintain flight doesn't really help either because the normal way of moving is by using actions already.  Needing to use an action to fly is still preferable to needing an action to walk.  Were you suggesting  flying would require an additional action on top of what is normally needed to move?</blockquote>

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