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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kahuna Burger" data-source="post: 1057844" data-attributes="member: 8439">Is there really any need to insult someone because they don't agree with you on a single book or author? I've seen the "This writer is good and if you don't like him it means you're not good enough as a reader/veiwer" thing before, and it was bad enough with the Church Of Joe. Ice and Fire is not "challenging." Its just a story. Fast paced writing, engaging characters, I think I blew through the last halves of the first two books staying up late nights to finish the last few hundred pages before I went to sleep. Picked up on everything, discussed it with my martin-worshipping bf. Nice world, well put together convergence of events, yadda yadda. I didn't laugh, I didn't cry, it wasn't better than CATS*. It was standard low magic "gritty" fantasy, until he got too hung up on the "and then things go terribly wrong" kick and lost my interest. I want fiction that I enjoy. As does most everyone. You enjoy Ice and Fire, I did for a while but won't be pursueing it further. I wish I'd realised what kind of author Martin was before I read two and a half books, but I am very greatful I didn't have the agonized waiting before being disapointed... *on the advice of legal consul I will note that I may have laughed a couple of times during the books and have not in fact seen CATS.Kahuna burger</blockquote>