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<blockquote data-quote="Vocenoctum" data-source="post: 1063128" data-attributes="member: 2477"><p>What killed my expectactions:</p><p>Sex: every chapter in the latter two books managed to fit sex in. Rape, consensual, whatever. In the chapters centered around Arya, the eight year old, there's still sex in nearly every chapter. It was to me, excessive and ruined the feel of the Story of Westeros.</p><p></p><p>Stupidity: the whole "mothers love" notion is so-so, but really the idea that she'd ever see her daughters in exchange for Jaime.. There's more too, just inherently stupid things in the books that jar me from the setting and my suspension of disbelief.</p><p></p><p>Length: I bought the books because they were 700+ pages, I enjoyed it. By the end, I felt they were being padded. I fear the next novel will be worse. You can say "the good guys don't always win in this story", and I'll agree, but if you say "reading about tedious pointless journeying is character building" I'll have to disagree.</p><p></p><p>Logic: Robert's heirs are the proper kings, because Robert overthrew the proper kings! Uh, right. (they did provide a hint of a trace of a possilbe lineage, but I'm sure such can be given for almost any lineage of the setting)</p><p>The only defense of our city will respond only to their current owner, and we'll happily sell them because we have no other defense!</p><p></p><p>There's other complaints, but really I mostly enjoyed the books. 1 left me really wanting to read 2 and 2 left me barely able to wait until 3.</p><p></p><p>But 3 makes me afraid that 4 will be horrible,</p><p>I like Arya, I don't want to read about her training.</p><p>Dany, likewise, her activities until the next important phase are unimportant.</p><p></p><p>Ah well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vocenoctum, post: 1063128, member: 2477"] What killed my expectactions: Sex: every chapter in the latter two books managed to fit sex in. Rape, consensual, whatever. In the chapters centered around Arya, the eight year old, there's still sex in nearly every chapter. It was to me, excessive and ruined the feel of the Story of Westeros. Stupidity: the whole "mothers love" notion is so-so, but really the idea that she'd ever see her daughters in exchange for Jaime.. There's more too, just inherently stupid things in the books that jar me from the setting and my suspension of disbelief. Length: I bought the books because they were 700+ pages, I enjoyed it. By the end, I felt they were being padded. I fear the next novel will be worse. You can say "the good guys don't always win in this story", and I'll agree, but if you say "reading about tedious pointless journeying is character building" I'll have to disagree. Logic: Robert's heirs are the proper kings, because Robert overthrew the proper kings! Uh, right. (they did provide a hint of a trace of a possilbe lineage, but I'm sure such can be given for almost any lineage of the setting) The only defense of our city will respond only to their current owner, and we'll happily sell them because we have no other defense! There's other complaints, but really I mostly enjoyed the books. 1 left me really wanting to read 2 and 2 left me barely able to wait until 3. But 3 makes me afraid that 4 will be horrible, I like Arya, I don't want to read about her training. Dany, likewise, her activities until the next important phase are unimportant. Ah well. [/QUOTE]
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