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Message: <blockquote data-quote="WizarDru" data-source="post: 1063833" data-attributes="member: 151">Well, all I say to that is that while you may not like it, I don't necessarily see it as bad, per se.  People have sex.  A lot.  And in a culture where a woman's most powerful asset is the ability to provide a male heir, you're going to have it as part of the story.  Part of Sansa's whole arc is to show up how she's been raised on chivalric notions, and how she discovers (to her regret) that most of them are fabrications or gloss over the truth.True enough on the face of it, but we're talking politics, here.  Take a good look at many of the wars fought throughout the middle-ages to the present day...lineage was a tool to promote legitimacy, but it could be (and was) circumvented easily enough.  A lot of such elements in "Song" are there because Martin took them from history.  Take a look at the first English Civil War between King Stephen and Queen Maude (Cadfeal, anyone?) and then the War of the Roses.  You'll find a lot of analogs to the series.None of which matters a whit towards your enjoyment of the series or anyone's interpetation of the merit of its inclusion in the story, of course....I just wanted to point out that many of these elements weren't non-sensical...any more than 3 day feasts were (which are also historically accurate).I'm pretty sure this was the problem GRRM has run into.  His original plan called for a 5-year gap between books three and four, and most likely accounted for Bran, Sansa, Rickon and Arya all growing into very different adults.  However, he found it unsatisfying, as I think I would, to wave a magic wand and have the characters just change.  To accomadate that would require large chunks of 'here's what happened' exposition, which I think would make the next book tedious.I only wish Jordan would show as much consideration for his story...but then, I think Jordan has found himself outmatched by his own premise...and that's a topic for another thread.</blockquote>

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