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<blockquote data-quote="jdavis" data-source="post: 1076985" data-attributes="member: 8704"><p>Well it is fun to read for me, I read for entertainment, of course books about the Dark Ages are fun for me to read to because I read for entertainment, reading post is fun for me to read because I read for entertainment, do you assume that all the millions of people out there reading Martin's books are not enjoying them? Yes they might not be happy slapstick kind of fun but they are for entertainment and if it wasn't entertaining then it would not be as popular as it is. As far as realism goes, well I don't remember there being a 200 foot tall giant Ice wall in the Dark ages, I don't remember people being emphatically attached to giant wolves in the dark ages, Dragons? no they are not real, magic....no, giants...no, how about evil elves who steal souls.....no those were not realistic themes from dark age history. If you are talking about royal incest that was a fact in places that have royalty long past the dark ages and into the 17th and 18th century, marrying cousin's to increase your claim to the throne was accepted practice, of course that doesn't make a history book out of Martin's writing, People killing each other.... gee isn't that a big part of all fantasy novels? Most novels have villians who do evil things. </p><p></p><p>I accept your arguement that you do not like this type of book, got no problem there but saying that nobody thinks the book is fun is pushing it, and saying it is a accurate depiction of the Dark Ages is also pushing it. I'd call it closer to a dark romance type of thing, sort of like the movie Excalibur, which had incest and murder and betrayal in it to but was very obviously a fantasy work. Martin doesn't write about peasants living in squaler he writes about brave knights and evil queens and all the types of stuff that have been making up fantasy and romance novels for hundreds of years, he is just telling a darker story than what most of the recent fantasy books have told.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jdavis, post: 1076985, member: 8704"] Well it is fun to read for me, I read for entertainment, of course books about the Dark Ages are fun for me to read to because I read for entertainment, reading post is fun for me to read because I read for entertainment, do you assume that all the millions of people out there reading Martin's books are not enjoying them? Yes they might not be happy slapstick kind of fun but they are for entertainment and if it wasn't entertaining then it would not be as popular as it is. As far as realism goes, well I don't remember there being a 200 foot tall giant Ice wall in the Dark ages, I don't remember people being emphatically attached to giant wolves in the dark ages, Dragons? no they are not real, magic....no, giants...no, how about evil elves who steal souls.....no those were not realistic themes from dark age history. If you are talking about royal incest that was a fact in places that have royalty long past the dark ages and into the 17th and 18th century, marrying cousin's to increase your claim to the throne was accepted practice, of course that doesn't make a history book out of Martin's writing, People killing each other.... gee isn't that a big part of all fantasy novels? Most novels have villians who do evil things. I accept your arguement that you do not like this type of book, got no problem there but saying that nobody thinks the book is fun is pushing it, and saying it is a accurate depiction of the Dark Ages is also pushing it. I'd call it closer to a dark romance type of thing, sort of like the movie Excalibur, which had incest and murder and betrayal in it to but was very obviously a fantasy work. Martin doesn't write about peasants living in squaler he writes about brave knights and evil queens and all the types of stuff that have been making up fantasy and romance novels for hundreds of years, he is just telling a darker story than what most of the recent fantasy books have told. [/QUOTE]
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